Bedroom tax

#2
They have left home. She is sat in a house with 300% too many bedrooms for 11 months of the year.

Get her in to a 2 bedroom or 1, and the lads can kip on the sofa if they come home.

This is a noble system, but likely to cause pain... partly because of people being forced out of their 'home' and partly through incompetence that s sure to manifest itself.

She may feel agrieved, but whatabout the families who need extra bedrooms but haven't got them for 12 months of the year?
 
#4
She's deluded. If they come home on leave they'll be like drunken puking hotel guests, just there for meals and a bed until sober enough for the next binge drinking sesh.
They'll probably be off somewhere exotic like Tenerife or Corfu for Fishbowl cocktails and sex with girls from Hull.
 
#5
She does not have to move, she is not being taxed on her empty bedrooms. Her housing benefit is being reduced by a percentage for each unused bedroom. The figures are I believe 25% for 2 spare rooms. So she has choices, live on slightly less money ,move to a cheaper house, ask the kids for rent to cover the difference, move to a 3 bedroom private rent. Or in extreme situations "get a job".
In my village there are lone occupents in 3 bedroom social housing. While families are strugling to find somewhere to live. The bedroom rules don't apply if you are on pension credits, so the elderly are protected.
 
#6
Pitswamper: I agree, when I sacked it for the weekend and decided to head back "home" I would tip up with a daysack and say hello before ironing my kit to go on the lash, parents would see me for maybe 2 hrs combined over the weekend before I restuffed the daysack to head back to the Shot.
 
#7
"Threatened with losing £1,000 per year, she approached a housing association about moving to a one-bedroom home – only to be told that none are likely to be available."

Thanks to a nation of people "owning" multiple properties that lease to rent at inflated prices. I've never agreed with people using property in this manner to generate an income.

And yes there are also pensioners in my local area living in 2-4 bedroom council housing that could be better utilised for families.

One person / family = one home.
 
#8
A common phenomenon these days is for the mother and father to be separated and living apart. Both have rooms commensurate with the number, age and gender of their children. One because the children live with them, the other so that the children can visit.

Presumable with social housing you pay according to the size and type of the property so if you have a four-bedroomed property you are already paying for those extra bedrooms in your rent. I don't see why an extra levy should be made against those in social housing. In my book it would be better to make it easier to downsize if you wish to. However, with social housing it is often the area where someone lives that makes them reluctant to move. If you give up your house on a nice part of the estate you could end up next to the family from Hell.

Does this only apply to those on benefit or does it apply across the board?
 
#9
Saw this in the Northern Echo, seems mum is a bit pissed that her sons have LEFT home and her being unemployed now has to pay tax on the 2 empty rooms. When I joined up "the place I lived" became Aldershot, mums was just where I was from. Anyway, what do you lot think?

"Bedroom tax" plight of Middlesbrough soldiers raised with Prime Minister (From The Northern Echo)
Oh..!!..thought it was about the 1st. Mrs 02 and the use of our joint credit card..'carry on'..
 
#10
"Bedroom Tax" my Arrse.

Housing Benefit will fall by 14 per cent if they have one unused bedroom and 25 per cent for two or more. That does not seem in the slightest bit harsh to me.
 
#11
I've just read the article. Seems she is from Coulby Newham, it's no wonder they joined up and frankly I can't imagine they would ever want to return.
 
#13
If there in arrears they can't move , according to council or housing association rules.
We have locally single people living in 3/4 bedroomed houses and people desperate for more bedrooms.
More than half the houses have been bought.But local young families can't get homes to either buy or rent locally and have to move out of town.
 
#14
"Threatened with losing £1,000 per year, she approached a housing association about moving to a one-bedroom home – only to be told that none are likely to be available."

Thanks to a nation of people "owning" multiple properties that lease to rent at inflated prices. I've never agreed with people using property in this manner to generate an income.

And yes there are also pensioners in my local area living in 2-4 bedroom council housing that could be better utilised for families.

One person / family = one home.
Presumably one Leader too.
 
#15
Does this only apply to those on benefit or does it apply across the board?
It applies to anyone who receives housing benefit, whether in social or private housing. I believe the original idea was to put a stop to people on housing benefit living in high rent million pound properties in London etc.
Most of the people around this area who live in properties with spare bedrooms tend to be pensioners who`ve lived there for donkeys years and whose families have moved on, but being a pensioner they are of course exempt from the rules which kind of defeats the object.
When I first found out about this subject I contacted my housing association about downsizing and was directed to a home swapping website. A scout around online for a 1 bed property within 25 miles of where I live turned up 3 properties, all were in sheltered accomodation for pensioners or the disabled, of which I am neither. A lot less hassle just to pay the extra 13 quid a week.
 
#16
Presumable with social housing you pay according to the size and type of the property so if you have a should be made against those in social housing. In my book it would be better to make it easier to downsize if you wish to. However, with social housing it is often the area where someone lives that makes them reluctant to move. If you give up your house on a nice part of the estate you could end up next to the family from Hell.

Does this only apply to those on benefit or does it apply across the board?[/QUOTE]

As far as I know it is anyone on Housing Benefit. The fact remains that it is only going to hit people on benefit including those disabled for what ever reason and if you can pay the 14-25 % extra then you can live where you like. -If you were paying full rent to start with it does not affect you regardless of property size. The idea of reducing overcrowding is a red herring here. The driving force was the ridiculous rents some landords in London were screwing out of the taxpayer for property in some areas.
 
#17
Housing benefit gets you the property you need, if you want a better or bigger house get a job and pay for it like everyone else.

Don't expect me to fund your aspirational lifestyle.
 
#19
There's an article in my local rag bemoaning the same thing & throwing statistics into the mix, i.e it will affect 5000+ people in social housing & there are only 74 social housing properties for them to move to. Then of course there's the private tenants who'll be hit too.

Considering the majority of family homes are either 3 or 4 bedroomed where are all the 1 & 2 bedroomed going to appear from, or will there be a sudden rush of applications to the planning departments seeking permission to convert into flats/bedsits?
 
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