Beat Officers Companion

#1
Evenin' all,

Had an RAF show a few weeks ago up this way and got talking to a few of the RAFP types, (who tried convincing me to go RAFP whilst I'm waiting for ATR in Jan, by the way).

Anyhoo, two of the guys recommended I get a head start on my phase 2 reading, and suggested I get Beat Officers Companion, good idea I thought, have tried to find something like this to do exactly that and come up wih nothing, so this is exactly what I was looking for.

I've tried all the usual outlets (Smiths, Amazon etc) and can't find a copy anywhere - does anyone know where I can get one?

Any help much appreciated,

Crescent
 
#4
They are cheap as dirt on ebay, I've seen a few for under a fiver (not today though).

Try searching for police manual, and I'm sure you'll get some useful results.

T_T
 
#5
It's a long time since I had anything to do with this (I am getting on a bit now) but try policereview.co.uk or offduty.co.uk and look under their books section.
I think that you will be OK without help from such books if you keep your brain engaged and use common sense together with and inquiring mind ie; don't believe anything that you are told unless it can be corobborated and question why anyone did anything.
Hope this helps.
 
#7
Excellent!

Cheers all.

Aye I did find a couple on ebay, then I was away for a week so I didn't want to bid and get it then not be able to sort out/pick up delivery, when I got back they were gone.

Thanks for the other links, most helpful for other things too.
 
#8
http://www.checkmatepublishing.co.uk/

In my humble opinion 'beat companions' are ok once you've studied and know the stuff - useful for all those times when you think to yourself 'What is the maximum weight of a moped again?'

Checkmate's books give you everything in a no nonsense form (unlike Blackstone’s which are like platting fog) and highlight all the little idiosyncrasies of the law, exactly the ones the question writers use to catch you out. Much better if learning from scratch.

I spent 3 months revising for an exam from Blackstones and a companion but once I heard the mighty Tom Barron (and the equally Knowledgeable but less entertaining Julianna Mitchell) speak and got hold of their books I realised I'd just wasted 3 months.

Just a thought.
 
#10
Fedex99 said:
If you do decide to go RAFP, there is a useful book called the Gate Guards Companion to Lifting Barriers!
Chapter 1: Barrier up.

Chapter 2: Barrier down.

Glossary of terms:

Barrier: The horizontal thing you won't go beyond.
Up: Where the pilots go (it worth joining the RAF for them)
Down: The opposite to up.
 
#11
Cresent,

Recently saw the L3ic exam papers at Southwick park and i would reccommend Blackstones Q&A. Blackstones reference books are crap, but the Q&A has been blatantly copied in the compilation of the exams. The names have been changed but the scenarios are the same.

I suppose if they've done it for the L3 they may have done the same for the Basic.

Live the dream at Southwick. May even see you there.
 
#12
Ration_Pack_Chocolate said:
Cresent,

Recently saw the L3ic exam papers at Southwick park and i would reccommend Blackstones Q&A. Blackstones reference books are crap, but the Q&A has been blatantly copied in the compilation of the exams. The names have been changed but the scenarios are the same.

I suppose if they've done it for the L3 they may have done the same for the Basic.

Live the dream at Southwick. May even see you there.
Agreed.
 
#13
stroker said:
Ration_Pack_Chocolate said:
Cresent,

Recently saw the L3ic exam papers at Southwick park and i would reccommend Blackstones Q&A. Blackstones reference books are crap, but the Q&A has been blatantly copied in the compilation of the exams. The names have been changed but the scenarios are the same.

I suppose if they've done it for the L3 they may have done the same for the Basic.

Live the dream at Southwick. May even see you there.
Agreed.
Third'd, although i've not seen an L3 paper yet, anyone got one lol :p
 
#14
Just join whatever you are going to join, you will get all the study programme and material free.

When you have studied it all, you will wonder why you thought of paying for a 'worthless' headstart in the first place.

If you need the expensive 'backup back' after that, you will know you have learned nothing.. and so will everybody else.

Just go for it.
 
#15
Yeah, if you want to scrape by and don't care what anyone thinks follow Josey's advice. If you have some pride, want to learn more than the basics and gain a credible pass, buy some reference material.

The stuff you are taught at depot will get you thru the course, the stuff in the manuals, with a little added effort, will set you up for a career to be proud of and you'll never be the ******** calling his duty officer with every stupid question.

The fact that you are so keen bodes well for your attendence at Southwick. Good to see some quality being recruited these days (says an old sweat of 6 whole years!!!)
 
#16
RPC,

I wasn't having a go at the guy, I was offering advice on how to save money. I didn't want him to be drawn into the, ' buy every manual ' advice and lose out. He was asking for info on line. If anyone could give him links it would save him a lot of money.

I wouldn't advise Blackstones, or the Companion beforehand.

It's not a question of him scraping by, I want him to have the best start as possible, just as you.

I just didn't want him ripped off. My final comment was, ' Just go for it ' how negative was that..
 
#17
Well cheers again to all.

I realise that the course material will be sufficient to pass the course itself, which is all fine and well, but like RPC mentioned; I want to have sufficient knowledge for a decent career, some credibility and respect and aye, not have to call the Duty Officer all the time.

Having said that I am only looking for one/two decent items not looking to buy everything under the sun Josey :thumright: but thanks for warning me off of that idea anyway
 
#18
Josey, I know mate, i wasn't having a pop, just some gentle sarcasm at the end of a long day! To many folk don't bother with further reading and end up with a 'if they don't teach it, i don't need to know it' attitude, which is somewhat grating. I know you were only trying to right by him, and all credit to you for that.
 
#20
Crescent

To stop all this crazy shite advice - as a former depot instructor (law) GPD and SIB, here is some mid range advice.

If you wish to pre study, learn the Theft Act 68 Sections 1-7. Verbatim Sect 4(1), understand the others Sect 4 sub sections sadly including wild creatures, foiliage and land.

Then Theft Act '68 - Section 9 1a and 1b and all sub sections

Criminal Damage Act '71 Sections 1-3 - Learn it all.

Offences Against the Person - Bty, Assault, ABH definition incl Sect 47, GBH 20 and 18 and the definition of Wounding and the destinction between wounding and GBH.

Under PACE - For now; just learn the caution verbatim, intimate and non-intimate samples.

Rules of Evidence - Evidence and Fact.

This will give you a decent head start at 'Basic Training' level without having to give up your life.

The instructors will give you the rest (Arrest, search, SPCOP, Army Act etc) without you being tempted to be a smart arse and ask questions they cannot answer and perhaps you may not really understand. (Have spent years listening to them)

This will also give you time to have a life, enjoy it, drink, shag and experiance without having to study Blackstones. Learn the basics thouroughly first, it will give you a good foundation, the rest will then come in time both with experiance and FUTURE study.

After 6 years you can decide if SIB/GPD or CP is your kettle of fish.

If you go for SIB later you can study a DSG in due course, believe me its not the best bed time reading. But if you want try the Telecommunications Act!

Good luck, if you don't understand any area PM me.
 

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