Beards, yes or no?

Do you think regs should be allowed to grow a beard.

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 30.1%
  • No

    Votes: 86 69.9%

  • Total voters
    123
Anyone who thinks "smart as a carrot and twice as crunchy" when looking at someone also needs cleansing with fire.
Sorry Bugle Major..............................
 
I tried a beard recently but unlike hair on my head and elsewhere it was almost pure white with just a bit of grey. As it wasn't December and I wasn't looking for a job as Santa it had to go.
 
I had a beard though, F2F interview is coming up; so shaved it off!

Got a 1980s ‘drug dealer’ moustache trying to emulate a 1970s porn star moustache though. So I guess it’s almost the same thing!
 
[T]he need for shaving can be suspended if the temperature drops below a certain number.
It can and should also be suspended if there is an operational need to conserve water. Under such circumstances, it only makes sense to make use of every practical method to stretch out the limited water supply, thus shaving may well become a matter of if and when; if there's the water, and when there's the time, and vice versa.

Another good operational reason for suspending shaving is when operating in jungle or rainforest areas, by reason of conditions which can see a minor cut from shaving turn into raging septicemia or worse in a very short time. As the late Colonel Charles Alvin Beckwith USA recalls in his memoir Delta Force (William Morrow, ebook edition) at p 34 ff, while he was on attachment to 22 SAS in Malaysia in the early 1960's he was advised not to shave or even to wash beyond a very basic point.

He ignored this advice. From a shaving cut, he developed such a bad case of leptospirosis that he very nearly died. There is another reason for not shaving or going beyond basic washing in such areas. A jungle or rainforest stinks, so if you, as Shakespeare wrote, are, "As fresh as a bridegroom and perfumed like a milliner," you will be the odd man out. A beard would also serve as natural camouflage.
 
It can and should also be suspended if there is an operational need to conserve water. Under such circumstances, it only makes sense to make use of every practical method to stretch out the limited water supply, thus shaving may well become a matter of if and when; if there's the water, and when there's the time, and vice versa.

Another good operational reason for suspending shaving is when operating in jungle or rainforest areas, by reason of conditions which can see a minor cut from shaving turn into raging septicemia or worse in a very short time. As the late Colonel Charles Alvin Beckwith USA recalls in his memoir Delta Force (William Morrow, ebook edition) at p 34 ff, while he was on attachment to 22 SAS in Malaysia in the early 1960's he was advised not to shave or even to wash beyond a very basic point.

He ignored this advice. From a shaving cut, he developed such a bad case of leptospirosis that he very nearly died. There is another reason for not shaving or going beyond basic washing in such areas. A jungle or rainforest stinks, so if you, as Shakespeare wrote, are, "As fresh as a bridegroom and perfumed like a milliner," you will be the odd man out. A beard would also serve as natural camouflage.
Well I fucking never!

Have you let the World's armed forces know about this?
 
That's fairly much a myth as well, loads of soldiers had beards in Afghanistan.

Its came as news to me on a recent exercise where I froze my bollocks off, that the need for shaving can be suspended if the temperature drops below a certain number.
I said I can understand it- not that it's necessary. Frankly the concept of beasties crawling in the facial undergrowth was enough for me. That said I never did like shaving but we had to.
 

cent05zr70

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........ That said I never did like shaving but we had to.
We had to! As far as I can make out, you don't "have" to do anything nowadays.
 
I spent 57 years clean shaven but got a bit lazy over christmas and ended up with a bit of a salt and pepper beard, my son said it looks like I have my head on upside down so I was going to shave it off but my daughter said "you know all those interesting and exciting things you've done, the beard make you look like you actually did them", so it's staying for now.
 

Sarastro

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in terms of the regs I can understand why no beards, field hygiene etc.
Yes, except again, as an excuse that gets trotted out all the time by SNCO types who just repeat what they were told as a crow, that's 100% medical bollocks. If field hygiene is the issue, why do the rules for the most challenging hygienic environments (jungle, arctic) ban shaving?

Given the level of willful ignorance usually displayed in this argument, this may surprise some people, but the human face did not actually evolve to scrape sharp knives over it as an essential survival measure. There are no long lost Amazonian tribes discovered who adapted to the jungle by growing Bic razor fingernails, and fossil records do not show that the first essential survival tools homo sapiens made included Gillette 5-blade technology.

Cutting your face, well, cuts it, which makes cuts, which get infected. This is poor field hygiene. Washing your face or having a shaved face removes or reduces oils and hair which protect it from freezing, cracking or burning against extreme cold, wind and sun. This is poor field hygiene. None of the pros in these environments wank on about shaving as field hygiene, as all of them specifically tell you not to do it on Day 2 of whatever course you are on. Exactly the same applies in every other environment, it's just less likely that you get caught out by it because the environment is more forgiving.

Good field hygiene =/= looking and smelling nice. Only deliberate fools, ignorant REMFs and Guardsmen believe they are the same thing. Even bootnecks are sensible enough to recognise that their 5-a-day shower routine in barracks isn't necessarily desirable in the field. After a week or two in the field, show me a scruffy, unshaven, stinking dirty fucker with clean fingernails, white eyes, dry feet with no blisters, no red cuts on his hands or knees, and a clean racing spoon, and I'll show you a bloke with excellent field hygiene.

EDIT: Yeah fuck, @stacker1 got there a decade before me.
 
^All of which I would have loved to have trotted out to the corporal on morning inspection "LR your'e idle man, you haven't shaved". As I pointed out I hated shaving and have had a full set for over forty years, but my basic was bad enough without taking on pointless arguments.
 

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