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#3
I cringed watching that programme last night. Not one actual shaped caubeen anywhere in sight. Horribly attempted NI accents.

The hollow square that was formed did not have warriors and CR2's anywhere near us. Wrong WMIKs too. We had a bit more than 30 people in the formation too...
 

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#5
Just read this bit of the article:

Captain Peter Drennan from Ballymena is a Reservist with 2 Royal Irish.

His appetite for the theatre of war isn't as strong but he says that he made a commitment as a part-time soldier which he has to honour.

"I've been away before so I've an idea of what I'm up against but its my first time in Afghanistan.

"I volunteered to join the TA but not to go to Afghanistan and I think that's the same for all the guys - we're here because we swore an oath. I think my mum's a bit upset about me going but I just hope and pray nothing happens anyway."
Not trying to drop him in it with his mum, but is he over doing the reluctant warrior bit, in so far as being a TA Captain he must surely have had to jump up and down and wave his hand air with vigorous enthusiasm to be mobilised?

Or am I being unfair?
 
#6
HVM_Boy said:
Did anyone see Kenneth Brannagh's portrayal of Tim Collins last night on BBC 2 giving "that speech"...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b009j873.shtml

I thought it was ok, bit unrealistic in some ways, and the soldiers had some of the best shaped Caubeens I have ever seen. :p
The BBC describes the drama thusly....
Series of dramas marking the fifth anniversary of the Iraq war. 24 hours remain until war. Colonel Tim Collins rallies his troops with a ferocious speech.
I would hardly say Tim Collins speech was "ferocious".
 
#7
RP578 said:
Just read this bit of the article:

Captain Peter Drennan from Ballymena is a Reservist with 2 Royal Irish.

His appetite for the theatre of war isn't as strong but he says that he made a commitment as a part-time soldier which he has to honour.

"I've been away before so I've an idea of what I'm up against but its my first time in Afghanistan.

"I volunteered to join the TA but not to go to Afghanistan and I think that's the same for all the guys - we're here because we swore an oath. I think my mum's a bit upset about me going but I just hope and pray nothing happens anyway."
Not trying to drop him in it with his mum, but is he over doing the reluctant warrior bit, in so far as being a TA Captain he must surely have had to jump up and down and wave his hand air with vigorous enthusiasm to be mobilised?

Or am I being unfair?
Never heard of him tbh :? 8O :? Sounds like he's an Ex-Home Service officer. Bless, his general service operational cherry is about to pop. I know the guys I trained can't wait to get out there and get their teeth into it. Typical officer then: no idea what his lads are thinking...

EDITED FOR CLARITY.
 
#8
Gaz3447 said:
Ex Home Service officer. Bless, it's his operational cherry he's about to pop.
because the HS obviously didn't do any operations over the last 30+ years you clown :roll:
 
#9
Gaz3447 said:
I cringed watching that programme last night. Not one actual shaped caubeen anywhere in sight. Horribly attempted NI accents.

The hollow square that was formed did not have warriors and CR2's anywhere near us. Wrong WMIKs too. We had a bit more than 30 people in the formation too...

"Tim's" accent really grated didn't it - you would think they would have listened to the original speech.
 
#11
Gaz3447 said:
I cringed watching that programme last night. Not one actual shaped caubeen anywhere in sight. Horribly attempted NI accents.

The hollow square that was formed did not have warriors and CR2's anywhere near us. Wrong WMIKs too. We had a bit more than 30 people in the formation too...

mmm... I fully accept I might have this wrong here- but doesn't caubeen mean "unshapen hat"?
 
#12
RABC said:
Gaz3447 said:
I cringed watching that programme last night. Not one actual shaped caubeen anywhere in sight. Horribly attempted NI accents.

The hollow square that was formed did not have warriors and CR2's anywhere near us. Wrong WMIKs too. We had a bit more than 30 people in the formation too...

"Tim's" accent really grated didn't it - you would think they would have listened to the original speech.
It was never recorded so there is nothing to listen too. A reporter wrote it down. Not big kenneths fault.
 
#13
Jelly_Fish said:
Gaz3447 said:
I cringed watching that programme last night. Not one actual shaped caubeen anywhere in sight. Horribly attempted NI accents.

The hollow square that was formed did not have warriors and CR2's anywhere near us. Wrong WMIKs too. We had a bit more than 30 people in the formation too...

mmm... I fully accept I might have this wrong here- but doesn't caubeen mean "unshapen hat"?
Yeah, but there's a limit to how unshaped it should be. Getting a new one issued and whacking it onto your bonce immediatley does not constitute correct wear. That's what they looked like. :D There's a difference between a well shaped caubeen and a heli LZ pad :D
 
#14
Gaz, a friend of mine is being lined up to write a history of the Royal Irish. He's hoping to blag some time in the 'Stan with them on this tour.
 
#15
wayner1970 said:
RABC said:
Gaz3447 said:
I cringed watching that programme last night. Not one actual shaped caubeen anywhere in sight. Horribly attempted NI accents.

The hollow square that was formed did not have warriors and CR2's anywhere near us. Wrong WMIKs too. We had a bit more than 30 people in the formation too...

"Tim's" accent really grated didn't it - you would think they would have listened to the original speech.
It was never recorded so there is nothing to listen too. A reporter wrote it down. Not big kenneths fault.

Yes true - what I meant is, the exact words were noted down, and we have plenty of sound recordings of Lt Col Tim, so they could have at least got the nuances of the speech correct.
 
#16
Kenneth Branagh went to the brigade "orders" in a LHD land rover but on the drive back he was in a RHD one. Mysteriously when he pulled up at 1 R IRISH location he was back in a LHD one...as for the caubeens, they were atrocious! I mean more atrocious than usual obviously.
 
#18
Gaz3447 said:
Good to see we went into Iraq on a set of Orders that consisted solely of ''Don't muck it up, Tim". :D
I thought it was quite good considering it was the bbc cant think of anyone else they would get to do that speech as well.
 
#19
Gaz3447 said:
LEGZ30 said:
Gaz3447 said:
Ex Home Service officer. Bless, it's his operational cherry he's about to pop.
because the HS obviously didn't do any operations over the last 30+ years you clown :roll:
Very little outside of NI. I should have clarified that.
How about them supplying troops for Kosovo and Iraq ( telic 1 & 7 )
 
#20
kc1982kc said:
Gaz3447 said:
LEGZ30 said:
Gaz3447 said:
Ex Home Service officer. Bless, it's his operational cherry he's about to pop.
because the HS obviously didn't do any operations over the last 30+ years you clown :roll:
Very little outside of NI. I should have clarified that.
How about them supplying troops for Kosovo and Iraq ( telic 1 & 7 )
Sadly Gaz3447 still has the " Us and them" approach of 1 R Irish against the R Irish HS (Sadly now retired). He chooses to forget troops have been supplied in the past, and there are also quite a few ex-HS currently serving as T.A. in Iraq / Afghanistan and not just with 2 R Irish.
 

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