BBC hitches up to the "Islamaphobia" locomotive

Is Islamaphobia real or nonsense?

  • Real

    Votes: 22 12.2%
  • Nonsense

    Votes: 143 79.4%
  • Nonsense but Muslims are a persecuted minority

    Votes: 5 2.8%
  • Real and criticism of Islam should be put into law

    Votes: 10 5.6%

  • Total voters
    180
Very much like the Jews, as some would have it:
"Because of the lack of productive capacities of its own, the Jewish Folk cannot carry out the construction of a State, viewed in a territorial sense, but as a support of its own existence it needs the work and creative activities of other nations. Thus the existence of the Jew himself becomes a parasitical one within the lives of other Folks. Hence the ultimate goal of the Jewish struggle for existence is the enslavement of productively active Folks. In order to achieve this goal, which in reality has represented Jewry's struggle for existence at all times, the Jew makes use of all weapons that are in keeping with the whole complex of his character. Therefore in domestic politics within the individual nations he fights first for equal rights and later for superior rights. The characteristics of cunning, intelligence, astuteness, knavery, dissimulation, and so on, rooted in the character of his Folkdom, serve him as weapons thereto."

Notice anything?
Utter nonsense.
 
As far as locomotives go, I much prefer a split domino headcode Growler.
No Muslim country ever built a decent locomotive or much else for that matter.
Too many hundreds of years behind the rest of the world.
Apart from algebra and pharmacies and surgical instruments and the scientific method and the law of sines and etc. etc...
 
Apart from algebra and pharmacies and surgical instruments and the scientific method and the law of sines and etc. etc...

Hmm.. which they took from other older civilisations they conquered & utilised forcing the people to convert or die, Persian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian etc. etc
 
I'm going to dead before it kicks off and live somewhere away from the Alans Snackbar crowd, but it's the Millennials shouting Islamophobia that are going to be bearing the brunt of this

It's amusing in a way, those most at risk are the ones wanting to mollycoddle the enrichers
it will be worse for them sure, especially when they find out what it is like for women and gays to live in islamic countries.

It might be closer than you think though, unless you plan on dying in the next few years, in which case, I hope not!

We are already seeing the natural progression of muslims into the political system and that will, naturally continue.
 
Apart from algebra and pharmacies and surgical instruments and the scientific method and the law of sines and etc. etc...

During those periods when the rulers were relatively sane, tolerant and rational men. When the religious fanatics took over that freedom and innovation stopped stone dead. And frequently involved lots of dead people, both muslim and non muslim.
 
After re-reading this thread I fully understand why B.B. Was too scared to deploy,because if he acts in the real world like he does on here there's no way he was coming back alive.
 
Hmm.. which they took from other older civilisations they conquered & utilised forcing the people to convert or die, Persian, Greek, Roman, Egyptian etc. etc
But they didn't, did they?

At the time of the 30 Years' War, when Europeans were happily burning each other at the stake for being the wrong stripe of Christianity, it was quite possible to be Orthodox or Catholic in Bosnia, for example.

The Ottoman Turks did apply different standards of citizenship (access to courts, jobs in the civil service etc) but - by the standards of the time this was quite liberal. Two-tier citizenship sounds quite similar to what some people are proposing on here.
 
Ineffectual platitudes . . . they simply do not understand that some consider the welfare of animals, to be far more important then the unnecessary, cruel, primitive and brutal dictates of irrational beliefs . . . .

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The Government encourages the highest standards of welfare at slaughter but respects the rights of Jewish and Muslim people to eat meat prepared according to their religion.

The Government is aware of concern about meat from animals slaughtered according to religious beliefs.

Current national regulations on religious slaughter have a long history. The issue was first debated in Parliament in 1875. The Slaughter of Animals Act 1933 introduced a legal requirement for stunning of animals prior to slaughter but contained an exemption where animals were slaughtered for consumption by Jewish and Muslim communities. Over the years the national rules governing religious slaughter have developed to provide additional protection to animals that are slaughtered in accordance with religious rites.

EU Regulation 1099/2009, on the protection of animals at time of killing, requires all animals to be stunned before slaughter except where animals are slaughtered in accordance with religious rites. The EU Regulation and the Welfare of Animals at Time of Killing (England) Regulations 2015 (WATOK) include strict requirements on where, how and who can slaughter animals in accordance with religious rites. These requirements are monitored and enforced by Official Veterinarians of the Food Standards Agency to ensure that animals are spared unnecessary suffering, distress or pain during the slaughter process.

The legislation also requires each person either handling or carrying out slaughter operations, including religious slaughter, to hold a Certificate of Competence. A person must undergo formal training, understand their responsibilities for the protection of animal welfare during slaughter operations and consistently demonstrate competent performance in order to pass the independent examination to obtain a Certificate of Competence.

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As a slight aside, where do you stand on fox hunting and other such sports?
 
There is an overt desire among the current establishment to protect Islam, presumably from the rest of Britain as they are the easiest among us to trigger into blowing themselves and hundreds of innocent people up.

The unintended consequence of this policy is that severe wrongs have been allowed to continue unchecked and the majority are being suppressed which is causing a growing wave of resentment and calls to action.

If this continues unchecked, the muslim population of britain will no longer be a minority, just look at the numbers and with a bloc voting population, they will soon be in a position to begin making legal changes and exploit democracy (exploit is not really the right word, USE is perhaps better).

I don't know why this most obvious fact eludes so many fence sitters but if you do not want to live in a caliphate then you have to take action NOW and that begins with stopping uncontrolled immigration, discouraging legal immigration from islamic countries in favour of nicer countries and cracking down on rouge mosques, rapists and bad eggs already here.

We require a written constitution that makes it very clear that Britain will not be changing it''s core values top suit islam.

The current "constitution" is a joke, I bet very few people are able to tell us anything about it when compared with the US.
I agree with a lot of this. Personally I think it IS time for a written constitution, that enshrines 'British Values'...whatever they are...I mean, the Scots don't even play cricket! And they eat haddock...

So I don't think it's a document that could get banged out over a weekend, but I don't think it's unreasonable to set some sort of basic citizenship requirements, enforced by law. I've no problem saying to someone "ok you want to live here, you speak our language* and play by our rules)

But it would need to consider a few things:

1. The rights of people who have already settled here;

2. The requirement for native-born Wayne, Waynetta, Chardonnay and Brooklyn to be held to the same standards of behaviour as Piotyr or Aaesha;

3. What allowance for diversity is made for Romany, and how is that applied to other traveling communities?

4. An end to faith-based schools of all kinds

5. What are the entry requirements and quotas for new immigrants?

6. What is our international obligation towards actual refugees and asylum seekers?

7. To what extent do we direct foreign aid to improve conditions in other countries so that people don't want to come here?

* Not quite sure how this applies to Scousers...
 
Very much like the Jews, as some would have it:
"Because of the lack of productive capacities of its own, the Jewish Folk cannot carry out the construction of a State, viewed in a territorial sense, but as a support of its own existence it needs the work and creative activities of other nations. Thus the existence of the Jew himself becomes a parasitical one within the lives of other Folks. Hence the ultimate goal of the Jewish struggle for existence is the enslavement of productively active Folks. In order to achieve this goal, which in reality has represented Jewry's struggle for existence at all times, the Jew makes use of all weapons that are in keeping with the whole complex of his character. Therefore in domestic politics within the individual nations he fights first for equal rights and later for superior rights. The characteristics of cunning, intelligence, astuteness, knavery, dissimulation, and so on, rooted in the character of his Folkdom, serve him as weapons thereto."

Notice anything?
You're a man with a small tash, I claim my 100 Reichsmarks
 
Very much like the Jews, as some would have it:
"Because of the lack of productive capacities of its own, the Jewish Folk cannot carry out the construction of a State, viewed in a territorial sense, but as a support of its own existence it needs the work and creative activities of other nations. Thus the existence of the Jew himself becomes a parasitical one within the lives of other Folks. Hence the ultimate goal of the Jewish struggle for existence is the enslavement of productively active Folks. In order to achieve this goal, which in reality has represented Jewry's struggle for existence at all times, the Jew makes use of all weapons that are in keeping with the whole complex of his character. Therefore in domestic politics within the individual nations he fights first for equal rights and later for superior rights. The characteristics of cunning, intelligence, astuteness, knavery, dissimulation, and so on, rooted in the character of his Folkdom, serve him as weapons thereto."

Notice anything?
Where did that quote come from?
Serious question as it sounds like something Mein Kampf would contain.
 

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