BBC: "Falklands Veteran 'Forced Out Over Sexuality' Will Get Medal Back"

soleil

Old-Salt
"A Falklands veteran forced out of the Royal Navy over his sexuality will have a military honour returned.

Joe Ousalice, 68, served as a radio operator for 18 years but was discharged in 1993 because of a ban of LGBT people in the armed forces.

He completed six tours of duty in Northern Ireland and was seconded to a Nato task force.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) admitted its policy was "wrong, discriminatory and unjust".

Mr Ousalice, who lives in Southampton, was awarded a Long Service and Good Conduct Medal and three Good Conduct badges.

But the medal was stripped from him when he was discharged because his bisexuality was believed to be "prejudicial to good order and naval discipline".

It is understood a scheme will be set up to return medals to other veterans in the future."

 

Yokel

LE
I was trying to work out how a naval rating had six tours in NI as a radio operator.
Up on the Loch ?
There were patrol vessels involved, also Commando Sea Kings deployed there from time to time, plus there were Communications facilities and personnel on the staff of Senior Naval Officer Northern Ireland, and the careers office, and permanent staff for the RNR....

It does seem a lot for one man.
 

BopBopBop

War Hero
I was trying to work out how a naval rating had six tours in NI as a radio operator.
Up on the Loch ?
1973. We, in our Ferrets, had to spend the day guarding a small grey patrol boat that came into one of the small harbours in Co. Down for some urgent maintenance.

They fed us two at a time onboard and I guess because we were new faces the whole crew sat around the table staring at us.

They must have had a "Never get off the boat" rule because not one of them came ashore while it was tied up.
 

philc

LE
My time in the RN in the 80s only Irish ratings got a NI draft, it was 6 months long then back to sea for JRs and Leading hands. You only got longer shore time if you were doing a course to do with your trade and it was promotion reliant. If you did 6 months I think you got a GSM Medal.

Cant see his winge, he broke the rules so lost any entitlement to any sort of Good Conduct award.
 
There were patrol vessels involved, also Commando Sea Kings deployed there from time to time, plus there were Communications facilities and personnel on the staff of Senior Naval Officer Northern Ireland, and the careers office, and permanent staff for the RNR....

It does seem a lot for one man.
Not to mention HMS Rame Head - tied up alongside Fort George, Londonderry for a number of years. Used as accommodation for the army but manned by the RN. No idea how many crew were on her though.
 

CatsEyes

War Hero
Maybe for "6 tours in NI", read "6 times in NI". I wonder if each visit would have been a medal qualification time period.
 
. . . also, certain of the specialist trades could take some some odd drafts: Belfast WIS, in the mid to late 80s, had a Leading Photographer on the staff.
 
Cant see his winge, he broke the rules so lost any entitlement to any sort of Good Conduct award.
It's all peace and reconciliation now, got to be inclusive. I'll just worry if being a woofter becomes compulsory.
 

Daxx

MIA
Book Reviewer
As long as the precedent is set and every other person who served and was discharged due to their sexuality has their LSGC (if qualified) restored.
 
The next issue to raise will be the pay for the service he was denied the right to complete, the pension with immediate lump sum he did not get, and all those payments he did not get for the last 22 years, since 1997.
 
The next issue to raise will be the pay for the service he was denied the right to complete, the pension with immediate lump sum he did not get, and all those payments he did not get for the last 22 years, since 1997.
You need to pass that on to magic grandad so he can scrape up some more votes for freebies.
 

Hippohunter

Old-Salt
H as dealt with under the rules at the time 1993, they changed in 2000, so how far back do you want to go to retrospectively change this 1980, 1970? Khan responsible for the recent London Bridge attack could not be further detained and his parole revoked under new legislation as he had been dealt with under the rules at the time of his conviction. So why can some laws be administered retrospectively and not others or by the same token rigidly adhered to yet others ignored.
 
You need to pass that on to magic grandad so he can scrape up some more votes for freebies.
Your lot ought to be electing someone that will improve that miserable pension rate you have for people that actually make it to retirement instead of handing out freebies.
 
Your lot ought to be electing someone that will improve that miserable pension rate you have for people that actually make it to retirement instead of handing out freebies.
Too many of us are making it to government pension retirement age now. We live longer because 'our NHS' fills us full of life enhancing medication, thanks to the advances of medical science, something has got to give.
 
Too many of us are making it to government pension retirement age now. We live longer because 'our NHS' fills us full of life enhancing medication, thanks to the advances of medical science, something has got to give.
Thankfully it’s the NHS.
 

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