BBC documentary on benefit frauds 8pm 3/11/11

#1
The BBC are showing how bad/easy benefit fraud is including people owning farmhouses in france whilst claiming rent benefit for a flat in london! Also some poor bloke with a bad back sailing across the atlantic solo, think i'm going to record this so i can watch in stages to prevent size 10 heading towards tv at vast rate of knots. In the link below 1 claimant drives from devon to london to pick up his claims in a bentley!!

BBC News - Panorama - Benefit claimants with Bentleys, second homes, yachts

PS could the solo trip across the atlantic explain the absence of whet in here?
 
#3
The documentary is based on his yacht!
 
#4
in the paper it's says one of the fraudsters was a lib/dem candidate which made me wonder if it was princess whingina sleepyhead!!
 
#8
Nothing new my aunt used to work in a GP practice in the east end of London. people of a certain skin hue were getting council flats and benefits to pay for them etc then sub-letting them out.
 
#12
As I said on another thread recently, there are a reported 600,000 mobility cars on the UK............... 1 in 10??????????????? I suspect that if the system returned to the little blue 3 wheeler then the claimants would fall off by 90%.
 

skid2

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#13
Great things, dump the throttle governer and they'd do 70 forwards and backwards, even worse than Grace Kelly on a bend though.
 
#14
As I said on another thread recently, there are a reported 600,000 mobility cars on the UK............... 1 in 10??????????????? I suspect that if the system returned to the little blue 3 wheeler then the claimants would fall off by 90%.
Want a laugh? Here in Pompey there are a lot of nice new white vans with 'disabled drivers'. Go to B&Q on any weekday and you can see them in the Blue Badge bays loading up for the days graft on site.
 
#15
As I said on another thread recently, there are a reported 600,000 mobility cars on the UK............... 1 in 10??????????????? I suspect that if the system returned to the little blue 3 wheeler then the claimants would fall off by 90%.
Probably, but that wouldn't save a penny.

If you are classed as having severe difficulty getting around, you get the higher component of Disability Living Allowance. This is to pay for taxis, buses, transport in general. The thinking is that people who are disabled get help with transport to put them on the same level as the able-bodied. I'm sure no-one here has a problem with that - no?

You can choose to use some or all of the DLA money to pay for a car or a disability scooter (but not both). Whatever the cost of the lease comes out of the allowance. If Motability cars were not available, the money would still be paid to the disabled.
 
#16
Want a laugh? Here in Pompey there are a lot of nice new white vans with 'disabled drivers'. Go to B&Q on any weekday and you can see them in the Blue Badge bays loading up for the days graft on site.
It's likely the Blue Badges used are fakes (loads of them around) or they belong to friends/relatives. Using them in the way you describe is a criminal offence (ie reporting it to the Police means they have to investigate) leading to a £1000 fine and the disabled badge-holder losing the badge. More here - The Blue Badge
 
#17
Probably, but that wouldn't save a penny.

If you are classed as having severe difficulty getting around, you get the higher component of Disability Living Allowance. This is to pay for taxis, buses, transport in general. The thinking is that people who are disabled get help with transport to put them on the same level as the able-bodied. I'm sure no-one here has a problem with that - no?

You can choose to use some or all of the DLA money to pay for a car or a disability scooter (but not both). Whatever the cost of the lease comes out of the allowance. If Motability cars were not available, the money would still be paid to the disabled.
So..... that'/s 600000 who have been classified? as having severe difficulty in getting around ........ which is obviously a percentage only of those who claim [not all drive or want to or cannot use a car] .... guessing there are probably a million plus then who are on the dis' ... that works out at 1 in 6 approx of the population which includes infants, kids, the criminallly insane etc., No wonder the countries F@cked!
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
Lot of good points here, terrible the way the blue badge and the DLA are being abused. The present method of proposing to get rid of public servants whose job is to investigate abuses of the system makes perfect sense.They lose their jobs get a bad back or depression then claim disability benefits. Because there's no one left to investigate or ensure proper safeguards the whole abuse carries on. Get rid of it, privatise the workhouse we could bring back sheltered employment and have the halt and the lame making baskets for their disability benefits. Instead of care in the community for the mentally impaired, where they just get in everyones way and make a nuisance of themselves, we could put them in specialist centres where they could actually be treated and helped. Maybe BUPA would go for it obviously it's a thriving efficient concern and you wouldn't have any of that waste associated with that socialist NHS
 

BuggerAll

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#19
Probably, but that wouldn't save a penny.

If you are classed as having severe difficulty getting around, you get the higher component of Disability Living Allowance. This is to pay for taxis, buses, transport in general. The thinking is that people who are disabled get help with transport to put them on the same level as the able-bodied. I'm sure no-one here has a problem with that - no?

You can choose to use some or all of the DLA money to pay for a car or a disability scooter (but not both). Whatever the cost of the lease comes out of the allowance. If Motability cars were not available, the money would still be paid to the disabled.
I doubt if many sensible people would have an issue with the genuinely disabled getting a helping hand. It's those who are not that grips the shit and as demonstrated on the program last night there are a lot more than has previously been admitted.

It's likely the Blue Badges used are fakes (loads of them around) or they belong to friends/relatives. Using them in the way you describe is a criminal offence (ie reporting it to the Police means they have to investigate) leading to a £1000 fine and the disabled badge-holder losing the badge. More here - The Blue Badge
Again I doubt if anyone objects to the disabled having blue badges but as demonstrated last night there is massive fraud in the system.

I know that Labour in particular likes to lie about this issue because state largess was a major way to get people to vote for them and it's an easy jibe at the Tories to call them uncaring when they try to tackle the issue but the taxpayer is funding billions of pounds of fraudulent claims and as a country we cannot afford it.

My sympathy scoring reached rock bottom when the foreign sounding man who was being arrested for having multiple claims under multiple identities started crying and trying to excuse his actions by saying how hard it is to get by in this country. I hope he mentions it as loudly and as frequently as possible to as many people as possible after he has been deported.
 
#20
My neighbour recently had a letter from The Dept of Work and Pensions.
Seems he recently informed them he was working part-time and they needed information to re-asses his claim and eligibility to benefits.

He is 93.Registered blind and 90% deaf.
I rang them on his behalf,they will not talk to me obviously.They suggested he writes to them to explain the situation.
Cnuts.
 

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