Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by nigegilb, Feb 26, 2007.
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Early heads up for BBC coverage of Herc foam issues tomorrow night probably 10 o'clock news.
Is it true that they company involved has cocked it all up?
three C130 Ks all delivered with fuel leaks. Not sure how easy the job is but the latest leak was discovered on the post delivery flight inspection. BBC are looking at other issues, hopefully it will be aired to coincide with the pre inquest review being held on Wednesday in Devizes. I am not here tomorrow so thought Id let fellow arrsers know what is going on.
Should be very interesting in view of the extra commitments and the need for additional C130 support.
If you mess about with old fuel bladders without using the skills of the experts then they leak.
It is a highly specialised job that is often not carried out by specialised people in order to save money.
HEY! Are you saying that these jobs were farmed out to minimum wage drift ins?
The MoD would never do that.
Its a private company doing the mods.
That is no way to talk about the population of the Fenlands.
All I am saying is that the work could have been carried out by a company that specialises in fuel cells rather than a general maintenance company but that would have been at a higher price.
When you remove fuel bladders they tend to develop leaks; a specialist company would have dealt with the storage, inerting, foam filling etc from a position of experience of group B rubbers.
Price versus cost is still an alien concept in bits of the DLO/DPA
Whilst scratching myself and contemplating getting up and going to work (or suicide, whichever was the quicker) this morning, I heard some bloke purporting to be called 'Nigel Gilbert' on R2 news talking about the parlous progress of fitting foam to the C130 fleet.
Who is this person? Can anyone on here vouch for his credentials?
He is closer to home than you think mate
Keep it up Nigel, we all appreciate your efforts!
The BBC coverage was good however they didn't mention that foam had been in place in many other air forces C130 for many years.
Always mindful to add a healthy dose of cynicism to anything involving government funding on defence I was nevertheless optimistic after an interesting conversation on the subject of foam with a chap from Marshalls whilst standing in a C130 at RIAT last year when he seemed pretty convinced that they had the green light and corresponding contract to fit-out most of the fleet. Can anyone confirm whether this is the case?
Some of their earlier reports did mention it quite prominently.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at how clueless the media are but I can't understand why they miss the key points:
The US fits foam as standard as Vietnam taught them that a tactical transport (ie one that is designed to go places where it will be shot at) that blows up every time it gets hit in a fuel tank is a very bad idea.
Lots of other users (can't tell you off the top of my head) have since agreed with them.
The UK is (almost ?) unique in that it made the deliberate, considered decision not to fit foam for financial reasons. It then sent sent these ac into harms way.
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