BBC claims that Special forces buried evidence of Afghan killings

I find it difficult to believe that the SF would destroy high level int sources needlessly. The work they do is important in friendly forces trying to beat the enemy to the bang and prevent attacks occuring in the first place and/or providing countermeasures for emerging threats. I’m also confident that SF soldiers would be aware of the reason and importance of their role.
I can't speak for SF but ditto everyone in uniform, or at least they should do.
 
Oh dear, How Sad, Never mind.
Not one fook is given about some unwashed, sandal wearing, goat shagging piece of shiite.

That's a harsh description...

But what about the Taliban that they're alleged to have executed?
 
This is just an allegation/hearsay, not a fact - the title of the thread is misleading.

At the end of the day I have faith in the Special forces, and if they felt the need to kill anyone - I am sure it was warranted. It's easy to assume stuff from your armchair, especially as you don't know all the facts, weren't there and only have a one sided story - by people that sell newspapers or have an agenda.

Also - it's Armistice day, you dopey twat - you could have posted this tomorrow, but I guess you just wanted a reaction, well here's mine for you - you're a retard!
It's easy to assume stuff from your armchair, especially as you don't know all the facts, weren't there and only have a one sided story

Oh the irony….
 

Nemesis44UK

LE
Book Reviewer
Now I'm only a Matelot and a Sundodger, so they don't let us play with guns 'n' things. However, why would somebody throw two perfectly good bullets/rounds (whatever!) at some old bint's house!

Please tell me this is a made up yarn, 'cos I think she might be telling porkies (SWIDT?).
Particularly as she's holding up two unfired rounds, which isn't what one would find after being shot at.
 
Particularly as she's holding up two unfired rounds, which isn't what one would find after being shot at.
I think you missed the bit where I said 'However, why would somebody throw two perfectly good bullets/rounds (whatever!) at some old bint's house!'

I might be a Matelot, but I ain't THAT thick!
 

theoriginalphantom

MIA
Book Reviewer
What else are you meant to do with dead bodies other than bury them??

Hand them back to the family in a black bag.
 
What else are you meant to do with dead bodies other than bury them??
Soylent green?.........WHAT?................its all protein! ( Known in the south pacific islands as long pork) ;)

Late edit: Film. "The cook,the thief his wife and her lover" end sequence, one of them is served up whole, on a platter, baked, by the cook. ( and Helen Mirren in the nude, norks well on display)
 
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Oh dear, How Sad, Never mind.
Not one fook is given about some unwashed, sandal wearing, goat shagging piece of shiite.
why would any pashtun man allow a woman (subhuman in his culture) anywhere near a journalist ?
 

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Kit Reviewer
why would any pashtun man allow a woman (subhuman in his culture) anywhere near a journalist ?
He doesn't get much say in it if he's been topped and buried by the gun club.
 

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LE
Kit Reviewer
I’m also confident that SF soldiers would be aware of the reason and importance of their role.
But a BBC activist is unlikely to know, realise or even work it out.

So it's hardly her fault, she was only doing her job.*




* undermining non-marxist society.
 

Poppycock

War Hero

This is from the BBC, today of all days


Senior military officers buried evidence that British troops were executing detainees in Afghanistan, the High Court has been told.
Ministry of Defence documents reveal UK Special Forces officers suspected their men were killing unarmed Afghans who posed no threat.
They also show the allegations were kept secret and not reported to the Royal Military Police (RMP).
The MoD says the evidence is not new and has already been investigated.
The court case follows a 2019 investigation by BBC Panorama and the Sunday Times that raised allegations of unlawful killings by special forces during the war in Afghanistan.
The High Court is considering whether the allegations were investigated properly by the armed forces.
The man bringing the case, Saifullah, claims four members of his family were assassinated in the early hours of 16 February 2011.
His lawyers were asking the court to order the defence secretary to release more documents before a full judicial review hearing.
Documents already disclosed were presented to the court. They showed nine Afghan men were killed in a raid on 7 February 2011 and eight more were killed by the same special forces assault team two days later.
More than a dozen detainees were killed after they were taken back into buildings to help search them. British troops claimed they were forced to shoot them after they reached for hidden weapons.
The documents show that in one email, a British lieutenant colonel expressed disbelief at the official accounts.
He said it was "quite incredible" the number of prisoners who decided to grab weapons after being sent back into a building.
A fellow officer replied: "I find it depressing it has come to this. Ultimately a massive failure of leadership."
A week later, the four members of Saifullah's family were shot dead in similar circumstances by the same special forces assault team.
The documents show the killings were described as "astonishing" by a senior officer.

Another senior officer later dismissed a soldiers' description of events, saying "the layers of implausibilities" made the official account "especially surprising and logic defying".
The court heard a British officer provided a written statement to a commanding officer after a member of the special forces told him all fighting-age males were being killed regardless of the threat they posed.
The officer said: "It was also indicated that fighting-age males were being executed on target inside compounds, using a variety of methods after they had been restrained. In one case it was mentioned a pillow was put over the head of an individual being killed with a pistol."
All the anecdotal reports of unlawful killings were locked away in a top secret "controlled-access security compartment", the court heard.
The court documents show the allegations were raised with a "very senior officer" at UK Special Forces headquarters.
The special forces leadership did not notify the RMP. Instead, the high-ranking officer ordered an internal review.
It examined 11 raids where the special forces unit had killed people in similar circumstances in the previous six months.
They had all been taken back inside buildings to help with the search after surrendering.
The final report was written by the commanding officer of the special forces unit accused of carrying out the executions. He accepted the version of events given in the official accounts of the raids.

Operation Northmoor​

In 2014, the RMP started investigating the alleged executions after receiving reports from Afghan families and whistleblowers from the British military.
Its investigation, called Operation Northmoor, was closed in 2019 without resulting in any prosecutions.
The MoD claimed at the time the RMP had "found no evidence of criminal behaviour by the armed forces in Afghanistan".
But the documents quoted in court suggest there were serious weaknesses in the investigation.
A summary of Operation Northmoor states it only investigated three of the original 11 incidents in detail and two senior officers identified as suspects were later dropped without being interviewed.
The summary also shows a decision was taken not to view video footage of special forces raids.
The MoD maintains the four members of Saifullah's family were killed by British troops in self-defence.
It has previously said: "These documents were considered as part of the independent investigations, which concluded there was insufficient evidence to refer the case for prosecution.
"The Service Police and the Service Prosecuting Authority of course remain open to considering allegations should new evidence, intelligence or information come to light."
Mr Justice Swift ordered the defence secretary to release additional documents related to the allegations.
The MoD had argued the defence secretary had adopted a duty of candour and that requests for documents should be proportionate.
This was the August 2020 news report and the quotes from it below that sent a chill down my back, given some of it happened in 2012 (H16) when we had one of THEM's Bushmaster's in our work shop (i.e. unwittingly or not, we were providing REMF support for such ops)


An internal [SAS] email requests a copy of the OPSUM within hours of the killings and asks: "Is this about [redacted] latest massacre!"

The reply includes a summary of the unlikely events in the official report and concludes by saying: "You couldn't MAKE IT UP!"
 

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Kit Reviewer
I don't agree. Generally they (as opposed to them) are there to fight, everything else is a second order effect.
Last time I checked fighting didn't include mass killing of unarmed civvies.


Not that I believe it actually occurred.
 

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