BBC bosses earn more than PM

#1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...pson-under-pressure-to-cut-executive-pay.html

The broadcaster’s 50 highest-paid executives earned up to £13.6 million last year, with well over half paid considerably more than the Prime Minister.
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47 of the leading 50 are in salary brackets that range from £190,000 to more than £600,000 triggered an angry reaction from MPs and trade unions. Gordon Brown earns £194,250.
For me it shows how democratic is Great Britain. Salaries of top bossed of Russian state-run TV are likely top secret. They work hard to improve the image of Putin's regime and are quite effective in brainwashing.
 
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KGB_Resident said:
They work hard to improve the image of Putin's regime and are quite effective in brainwashing.
Oddly enough, the Beeb are pretty good at that sort of thing, too.
 
#3
KGB_resident said:
For me it shows how democratic is Great Britain. Salaries of top bossed of Russian state-run TV are likely top secret. They work hard to improve the image of Putin's regime and are quite effective in brainwashing.
I have two problems with your post.

1) Salaries have traditionally been kept 'modest' in comparison to the responsibility of the task of politician in Britain, high enough to enable those of poor background not to be inhibited from holding the office and encourage the gifted, and low enough not to encourage greedy careerists and attract people who put the job before the money. Despite what one imagines now, politicians don't go into it for the money in this country.

2) Despite what we banter about, the BBC isn't there to broadcast the will of the Party.

I have always been grateful that I wasn't born a Russian. But then most of you poor sods don't even know what you're missing. Imperfect as the UK and the rest of Europe is, at least dissent from propaganda doesn't result in being shot.
 

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milsum said:
KGB_resident said:
For me it shows how democratic is Great Britain. Salaries of top bossed of Russian state-run TV are likely top secret. They work hard to improve the image of Putin's regime and are quite effective in brainwashing.
I have two problems with your post.

1) Salaries have traditionally been kept 'modest' in comparison to the responsibility of the task of politician in Britain, high enough to enable those of poor background not to be inhibited from holding the office and encourage the gifted, and low enough not to encourage greedy careerists and attract people who put the job before the money. Despite what one imagines now, politicians don't go into it for the money in this country.

2) Despite what we banter about, the BBC isn't there to broadcast the will of the Party.

I have always been grateful that I wasn't born a Russian. But then most of you poor sods don't even know what you're missing. Imperfect as the UK and the rest of Europe is, at least dissent from propaganda doesn't result in being shot.

9 am tomorrow morning. Report to the post in the square. Bring your own blindfold.
 
#5
Nothing unusual about that, there are Civil Servants working at local council level (normally the big cities) on £200K + bonuses, although I don't think their pension plan is as generous....... Or their after dinner speech revenue ;)
 
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milsum said:
Despite what one imagines now, politicians don't go into it for the money in this country.
For a salary alone that puts them in the top 5% of earners? I do believe you have been living in a cave for the last month...


milsum said:
2) Despite what we banter about, the BBC isn't there to broadcast the will of the Party.
Now I believe you have been living in a cave for the last 30 years.
 
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old_fat_and_hairy said:
milsum said:
KGB_resident said:
For me it shows how democratic is Great Britain. Salaries of top bossed of Russian state-run TV are likely top secret. They work hard to improve the image of Putin's regime and are quite effective in brainwashing.
I have two problems with your post.

1) Salaries have traditionally been kept 'modest' in comparison to the responsibility of the task of politician in Britain, high enough to enable those of poor background not to be inhibited from holding the office and encourage the gifted, and low enough not to encourage greedy careerists and attract people who put the job before the money. Despite what one imagines now, politicians don't go into it for the money in this country.

2) Despite what we banter about, the BBC isn't there to broadcast the will of the Party.

I have always been grateful that I wasn't born a Russian. But then most of you poor sods don't even know what you're missing. Imperfect as the UK and the rest of Europe is, at least dissent from propaganda doesn't result in being shot.

9 am tomorrow morning. Report to the post in the square. Bring your own blindfold.
and £1.97. No change can be given.
 
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Azrael2006 said:
Nothing unusual about that, there are Civil Servants working at local council level (normally the big cities) on £200K + bonuses, although I don't think their pension plan is as generous....... Or their after dinner speech revenue ;)
Not worth as much net per month now :D

Aren't they glad they voted Labour............
 
#9
The BBC will "Always" state to ensure the corporation has a wealth of talent from peronalities, Boardroom staff to support staff, they have to pay them the correct & going rate in order to produce qulaity programmes

The thing that hacks me off are the people with excessively high salaries such as JR & Co, can't stand the person myself & if other Broadcasters can freeze & cut back then the Beeb should be showing an example!

Now the BBC Trust are complaining about the licence fee being redistributed, I wonder why?
 
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msr said:
milsum said:
Despite what one imagines now, politicians don't go into it for the money in this country.
For a salary alone that puts them in the top 5% of earners? I do believe you have been living in a cave for the last month...
milsum said:
2) Despite what we banter about, the BBC isn't there to broadcast the will of the Party.
Now I believe you have been living in a cave for the last 30 years.
msr. I read Private Eye avidly, and am generally as cynical as they come, however I still believe that greed for personal power and ambition will always outweigh lust for pecuniary advantage. That was the point I was trying to make.

The same applies to the BBC. Individuals in that organisation are more likely to follow their own agenda than that of a Government. This is slightly different but not dissimilar from newspapers (that once followed the line of an editor) that will follow that of the owner(s), who purchased it for that reason alone. Those within the BBC who control what is reported, commissioned and how it is broadcast, may follow the line of a party if it is in their interests to do so, but it's bloody fickle by anyone's standards.
 
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beemer007 said:
The BBC will "Always" state to ensure the corporation has a wealth of talent from peronalities, Boardroom staff to support staff, they have to pay them the correct & going rate in order to produce qulaity programmes
The BBC pay a lot of their performers more than private channels. They have a huge influence on what the 'going rate' is, and if you want to watch TV, you don't have a choice whether or not you're a customer.
 
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milsum said:
Individuals in that organisation are more likely to follow their own agenda than that of a Government. This is slightly different but not dissimilar from newspapers (that once followed the line of an editor) that will follow that of the owner(s), who purchased it for that reason alone.
Hmmm. There's much less individuality within the Beeb than you may think. 'Individuals' may follow their own agendas, but those agendas appear to be the same as everybody else's within the Corporation.

It's a bit like the "yes, we're all individuals" scene in The Life of Brian. The consensus is way to the left of centre and it shows in the programmes that they put on air.

Programme ideas are put to commissioning editors who have the same lefty persuasions as the producers. The ones that make it to air tend to celebrate high public spending, diversity, liberal values, empowerment and wanky middle class ideals and 'lifestyles'.
 
#14
I always maintained that Max Hastings (known in the newspaper business as 'Hitler Hastings') should have been made DG at the BBC. That would have turned a few little worlds upside down...
 
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tomthetinker said:
I always maintained that Max Hastings (known in the newspaper business as 'Hitler Hastings') should have been made DG at the BBC. That would have turned a few little worlds upside down...
Or the other favourite - David Attenborough, blessings and peace be upon him.
 
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King_of_the_Burpas said:
tomthetinker said:
I always maintained that Max Hastings (known in the newspaper business as 'Hitler Hastings') should have been made DG at the BBC. That would have turned a few little worlds upside down...
Or the other favourite - David Attenborough, blessings and peace be upon him.
Seconded and thirded in the space of a single post. And then made El Presidento Of the UK for life (and ever).
 
#17
I for one think the TV execs are worth every penny they're paid. We have such great programmes on the BBC. Ready Steady Cook, Eastenders, Cash in the Attic and the News is so unbiassed. The list goes on and on. I believe the BBC is the envy of the world or is that the pay packets of the Execs.
 
#18
BearFrills said:
I for one think the TV execs are worth every penny they're paid. We have such great programmes on the BBC. Ready Steady Cook, Eastenders, Cash in the Attic and the News is so unbiassed. The list goes on and on. I believe the BBC is the envy of the world or is that the pay packets of the Execs.
Quite so, BF

The BBC - home to safe, predictable, comfortable, non-challenging bollix that costs a fortune to produce.

Post Iran / Jackson, I reckon the fulcrum of journalism has changed a wee bit. A lot of guests on the news progs are talking about Twitter, Wikipedia and various bolgs and web news agencies as the font of truth these days, rather than the mythical Reithian powerhouse.

The Beeb has some catching up to do.

Even Panorama has turned into shiite - John Sweeney doing his war bore stint in the Swat valley weeks after every other hack on the planet had been there.

Morale within the Corporation is at an all time low. The BBC is a mirror image of the country after too many Labour years. It's saddled with debts caused by pisspoor management decisions (especially in property). It's dominated by cliques. It's riddled with yet to be discovered expenses disasters.

It needs a purge - starting with its middle managers. Those are the ones that don't feature on the published expenses lists, but who make all the wrong decisions and who cost the most money by far.
 
#19
Look at the hits on the BBC yesterday, it must be fairly well respected worldwide when you look at the hits it has received during major world events such as the 9/11, Concorde crash and even the MJ debacle.

Trust me I live else where in the world and the BBC is a lot better than we get locally.
 
#20
Having been septic side for too many years now I cannot comment on the quality of BBC programming, however the BBC News (at least that shown over here) is streets ahead of any US news channel.

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