BBC bias in question (which way do they lean?)

OneTenner

LE
Book Reviewer
Instead of one old Emily Maitlis on £260k, they could hire a few good looking younger women.
All they do is read out some lines. Hardly rocket science.
They could rent them by the hour....
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
What makes you so sure about that?
Stack the current Doctor Who up against any of the sci-fi from elsewhere. Stack Mrs Brown's Boys up against the comedy from elsewhere (remember - this is an organisation that said it wouldn't let the Monty Python team through the door these days because they went to private schools).

Current affairs? The BBC has long since assured us that only its funding model gives us such 'excellent' programmes (which they're not any more). Sports? Where's it going to get the money from to secure the big events without taxpayers' support? News? News is already debased and partisan, and we've been promised that there'll be further cuts if needed (while still protecting important news topics such as LGBTetc...). Radio? Don't make me laugh. Radio 1 is gash; 2 has been quota-ed and is gash; 3... well, 3; and 4 is just about holding its own but wouldn't in a commercial setting.

I'm pretty sure.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
Book Reviewer
In my personal experience, woke ideology is much more related to age, rather than social class or financial background.
Most youngsters I know are woke, whether they are rich or poor.

Many older men I know would describe themselves as socialist hard left, but they are not woke. They are for nationalisation, tax the rich, but they are not keen on immigration or gay weddings and they are pro capital punishment.
I believe this is because the National Curriculum teaches a load of woke bollocks, environmental half truths and agenda driven history and literature.

Thus turning out a generation of ill-informed, unenquiring minds, which accept anything Emily, Laura, Robert and co care to utter.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
I believe this is because the National Curriculum teaches a load of woke bollocks, environmental half truths and agenda driven history and literature.

Thus turning out a generation of ill-informed, unenquiring minds, which accept anything Emily, Laura, Robert and co care to utter.
Bright spot on the horizon; apparently the current Woke generation of teachers are finding that the little darlings under them are being a little rebellious.
 
In that case, they've won. Woke is mainstream. It's not allowed to be challenged.
I'm sorry to say I completely agree.
Woke/identity politics is the new orthodoxy and is being portrayed as such.

As you pointed out, have any reasoned debate about its content and you're labelled a gammon/nazi/fascist.

As @MuddyOldEngineer pointed out there are swathes of the populace who don't agree with it and are surprised to hear that they're not alone. After the landslide at ghe last election it was interesting to hear how relieved everyone was about it.
To take note of what you see, hear and read they seem worlds apart to what most people who can actually articulate an opinion think.
 

Glue_Sniffer

Old-Salt
Stack the current Doctor Who up against any of the sci-fi from elsewhere. Stack Mrs Brown's Boys up against the comedy from elsewhere (remember - this is an organisation that said it wouldn't let the Monty Python team through the door these days because they went to private schools).

Current affairs? The BBC has long since assured us that only its funding model gives us such 'excellent' programmes (which they're not any more). Sports? Where's it going to get the money from to secure the big events without taxpayers' support? News? News is already debased and partisan, and we've been promised that there'll be further cuts if needed (while still protecting important news topics such as LGBTetc...). Radio? Don't make me laugh. Radio 1 is gash; 2 has been quota-ed and is gash; 3... well, 3; and 4 is just about holding its own but wouldn't in a commercial setting.

I'm pretty sure.
I meant, what makes you so sure the government won't just change the license fee to a BBC tax? Could be added onto utilities or broadband as a tax. That's what they do in Europe.
 

Helm

MIA
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I believe this is because the National Curriculum teaches a load of woke bollocks, environmental half truths and agenda driven history and literature.

Thus turning out a generation of ill-informed, unenquiring minds, which accept anything Emily, Laura, Robert and co care to utter.
Add a lot of bone idle parents, who take no part or interest in broadening their childrens minds.
 

Glue_Sniffer

Old-Salt
Bright spot on the horizon; apparently the current Woke generation of teachers are finding that the little darlings under them are being a little rebellious.
I'm not sure about that. The kids are probably as badly behaved as ever, but in terms of woke ideology, in my experience they are firmer believers than the teachers.
 
They just can't help themselves. 0A was listening to a quiz show called "The Third Degree" on R4 Extra this morning. They managed to slip in "Orange Man Bad" and "Brexit Bad" references into an otherwise quite decent programme. These remarks added nothing to the programme, I suspect it was (presenter) Steve Punt just getting a few digs in.
Used to listen to infinite monkey cage. Don't now due to incessant Orange man bad. Brexit bad.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
I meant, what makes you so sure the government won't just change the license fee to a BBC tax? Could be added onto utilities or broadband as a tax. That's what they do in Europe.
Given the treatment that the current government has had from the BBC, do you think that any revue will simply change how funding is raised from one form to another?

Decriminalisation of non-payment isn't about setting us up for another tax; it's about telling the BBC that if it doesn't buck its ideas up the tap will be turned off.

That the BBC is still so gloriously self-satisfied that it won't take the hint is another conversation.
 

Auld-Yin

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Given the treatment that the current government has had from the BBC, do you think that any revue will simply change how funding is raised from one form to another?

Decriminalisation of non-payment isn't about setting us up for another tax; it's about telling the BBC that if it doesn't buck its ideas up the tap will be turned off.

That the BBC is still so gloriously self-satisfied that it won't take the hint is another conversation.
Setting up as a tax is the last thing the BBC want, that way the money would go to the Treasury and the BBC would have to ask for, and justify, every penny.
 
Not sure I agree with the first part of your post, anything repeated often enough unchallenged eventually becomes the accepted norm, "common sense" almost. The right to reply for contrary views is denied by the BBC; any criticism is dismissed as irrelevant or partisan. It was a certain Austrian painter who suggested that if you tell a lie, you should tell a big one and tell it often; eventually it becomes the truth.

Strongly agree with the rest of the rest of your post. It's getting beyond a joke.

If no-one has started a Uk Gov petition to get the licence tax removed altogether, I may just start one.
Wait

You disagree with some of my post then go on to agree with the other part ?

This is a blatant u turn and a clear lack of direction. . While you may not have broken any site rules, I feel confident that the court of public opinion demand your resignation from these esteemed pages. .

Yours sincerely
Laura, Robert, Emily etc
 
well the east germans did at least make sure if they were going to be communists they would be the best communists.
Yes, East Germany seems to be the model favoured by Labours Executive Director of Strategy and son of former BBC Director General Alasdair Milne. Not suggesting any connection but there are so many coincidences these days and with Seamus being a journalist who wrote for the Guardian...
 
I don't think so.
Woke ideology is here for a generation at least. Probably two.
The ideology is ingrained in the younger generations.
Then blame the parents.

I have three kids aged between 16 - 20, and they are anything but Woke.
I've raised them to swear, be cynical, don't worry about offending people and generally see pointless token wokism for what it is.

It'll get them fücking nowhere in life, but at least they say it as they see it and won't virtual signal their youth away
 
Their funding review cannot come soon enough.
The BBC it seems, agrees the licence fee is no longer fit for purpose. Probably because evasion is far greater than Capita’s ability to keep it to manageable levels.

In its place they favour a ‘broadband levy’. Almost impossible to evade for the majority of households and of course, an even greater income to fund its agenda at the expense of quality output.
 
The BBC it seems, agrees the licence fee is no longer fit for purpose. Probably because evasion is far greater than Capita’s ability to keep it to manageable levels.

In its place they favour a ‘broadband levy’. Almost impossible to evade for the majority of households and of course, an even greater income to fund its agenda at the expense of quality output.
Isn't that unfair on sources of free and impartial information which don't receive any centralised funding through compulsory public taxation? Will they advocate funding the Guardian as well? So much for Internet Neutrality.
 
Isn't that unfair on sources of free and impartial information which don't receive any centralised funding through compulsory public taxation? Will they advocate funding the Guardian as well? So much for Internet Neutrality.
Personally, I think any public funding of the BBC is grossly unfair, especially when choosing not to opt in to its funding model denies me the right to view other self funding TV output.

I don’t believe the BBC is any more concerned with fairness than it is concerned with meeting the terms of it charter or good husbandry of public funding.

If I was looking for a good funding model for the BBC, I’d be going for a clothing levy. A BBC surcharge on every single item of personal wear from shoes to hats, from cradle to grave. It can never have too much money to squander on the Linekers, Kuenssbergs, Edwards', Maitlis’ and Bruces et al.
 
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