I was going to put this into the J Beharry VC thread but I think it's about a wider issue. What really irks is the fact that the BBC's television output on 1 and 2 has gone seriously downhill; there's been so little proper (interesting, entertaining, educational, broadening) content that I frankly can't remember when I last watched either channel when I was at home. Radio: I certainly don't listen to the World Service, even when in the most obscure of foreign spots, and haven't for a couple of decades since they decided that it was a forum for scarcely-intelligible announcers to introduce Yuman Rights and Elf and Safety to various foreign bastards, and not for keeping us British bastards abroad in touch with Home (as it was when I were a lad, and jolly good it were then, too). When they start apologising for the Empire, the Colonies and the terrible detriments we vile Brits left in our wake after Independence, I have to suck big prescription pills.(Do foreign bastards pay British taxes or BBC licences?) Anyway, it seems that the governors have decided that they should go even more down market, in an attempt presumably to gain more 'market share'; why the cretins should do that baffles me, as the BBC isn't market-driven in the first place and has a duty - in the second - to the British public, to provide radio and television programmes of a culturally high standard. That does not, repeat not, include extruding dogshit of the 'Big Brother' order, which Channel 4 has shown itself very competent at, although unprofitably, apparently. I do wish they'd get a grip on themselves. Possibly the ten years of Tony's counterfeit leadership has numbed their critical faculties, as it seems to have with much of the rest of the media. Anyone?