Bayonet charge bloke being shafted by MoD

#1
I know that the Mirror is used for sh!te-roll in Hell, but this is interesting anyway.

So it's OK for blokes to be wheeled out and grin for the cameras, but if they say anything off their own backs, they get shafted?

A HERO soldier who led a bayonet charge on rebels in Iraq has been disciplined for speaking about his bravery.

Corporal Mark Byles, 34, of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, revealed details of the operation in a newspaper.

He described how he attacked insurgents firing rocket-propelled grenades from a trench after his battalion went to help troops on the main road between Basra and Baghdad.

But a Ministry of Defence source said: "The Army says he's disclosed classified information."

The fight ended with three Iraqis dead and eight captured. Byles said he shot dead two more Iraqis in another trench.

He told the paper: "I slashed people, rifle-butted them. I was punching and kicking. It was either them or me. It felt like a dream."

An MoD spokesman said: "This is being dealt with internally."
 
#4
I expect that he was in contravention of the new DCI. That's the new 'Big Brother' DCI subtitled: 'How dare you speak out about New Labour and our Dear Leader.'

cnuts.
 

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#6
Firstly, the Mirror (beloved of Soldiers everywhere...) would say that, as he spoke to the Sun.

Secondly, someone doesn't want people who were involved in major actions, in which LARGE numbers of Iraqi bandits, smugglers, and fanatical fools were killed, talking to the press at all.....

Hence, lots and lots of publicity for 1BW, and their triumphant return - yet very little for the PWRR on their return from serious warfighting in and around Al Amarah.

Some people don't like Soldiers who kill people in battle - not very New Labour, is it?
 
#7
The full-screw has now adapted his story to read:

"Feeling the joy of my work and filled with the Spirit of Our Leader, I rushed forward shouting New Labour Forever! I hugged the nearest gentleman of Middle Eastern descent and declared our eternal brotherly non-judgmental love in the light of Our Lord Bush's Glory. Together we sang songs of reconcilliation and truth and I offered my homeland to him and his kin, all 25 million of them.

Then i saw David Blunkett. I capped that m*****F***** twice in the head. The Leader said It Was Good"
 
#8
I fear that you may be right. But I expect that the discipline will be along the lines of "Don't speak to the press again" I really doubt (and hope) that there won't be any real trouble for him?
 
#9
Filbert Fox said:
Tell your mates down the pub, not the media, theyll get you shafted.
Why shouldn't this kind of story be told? It's in the finest tradition of the army and it's the sort of publicity sorely needed. There's too much government-inspired control-freakery bullsh!t a la "OK to kill the bushwhackin' basta*ds, but let's not tell anyone about it in case we offend an ethnic minority." Inspired soldiering. Good on you, PWRR. They don't like it up 'em!
 
#10
claymore said:
Why shouldn't this kind of story be told?
because:
A crap Pap said:
A HERO soldier who led a bayonet charge on rebels in Iraq has been disciplined for speaking about his bravery.

Corporal Mark Byles, 34, of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, revealed details of the operation in a newspaper.

He described how he attacked insurgents firing rocket-propelled grenades from a trench after his battalion went to help troops on the main road between Basra and Baghdad.

But a Ministry of Defence source said: "The Army says he's disclosed classified information."

The fight ended with three Iraqis dead and eight captured. Byles said he shot dead two more Iraqis in another trench.

He told the paper: "I slashed people, rifle-butted them. I was punching and kicking. It was either them or me. It felt like a dream."

An MoD spokesman said: "This is being dealt with internally."
 
#12
claymore said:
No answer, FF. If we always roll over and play dead, nothing changes.
Im all for letting the public know what great and brave deeds our soldiers have done and are doing. But this chap is going to get shafted because he commited the cardinal sin of communicating with the paps.

The MoD like to say 'yes he was really brave and gave the baddies a swollen eye and a bloodied lip, hurrah for us!!'
they dont want (for some reason, although they will graphically describe how our troops have been killed) the public to know how it was really done.
Why? we are the good guys and if we have to kill, its done with a rapier strike to the heart in the dawn fog, not with teeth, nails and bayonets.
 
#14
It is therefore OK for Bliar to tell untruths to the media ranging from "45 mins until midnight" to "I ran away to the Caribbean on a direct flight from Newcastle (none existed at the time)" and "I sat behind the goals at St James's Park and watched Jackie Milburn play for Newcastle (Bliar was 4 at the time and St James's was all-standing" but not for a squaddie to tell the Press about his heroism. If Joe Bloggs in the street tackled an armed robber and won the George Cross (as opposed to being locked up by Blunktw@tt) then he could speak happily to whomever he wished.
 
#15
It's the same thought process as says it's fine to eat battery farmed chicken which comes plucked, skinned and unidentifiable in cellophane but it's ghastly and obviously shows psychotic tendancies if you grab a bird out of the yard, wring its neck, prepare it and eat it. :roll:
 
#16
Can't see the point in disciplining the bloke - what these people can't I understand is that in a short time a new generation of 'shoot 'n' tell' books will come out anyway.

Hope Corporal Byles sells his story to a ghost writer and makes a million quid :twisted:
 
#19
This smacks of PC. The MOD are concerned with the gruesome image of the reality of war, one human bayonetting and slashing to death another, as being bad for its image. This is the whole point. The people and the Pollies need to know this is not some glorious game.

If indeed the MOD believe his comments to have been some sort of breach of opsec then this is a continuation of inconsistently applying the rules. I don't remember the MOD taking action against Gen De La Billiere for his book which went into a considerable amount of operational detail. Or are the rules different for Senior Officers compared to the soldiers?

No need to reply.
 
#20
He's probably being shafted because he has spilled the beans about our soldiers having to actually kill people now & again, with real face to face nastiness, which is bad for the image.
The Proles don't like to see that sort of stuff.
"It's Tommy this & Tommy that
And kick him out, the brute................"
 

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