Battle of the Bulge

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  1. jim24

    jim24 Book Reviewer

    The" Sherman tank" in first picture is an M10 tank destroyer,
  2. The SP Atk Gun labelled "View of German soldiers aboard a Jagdpanzer IV/70 tank destroyer from the 12th SS Panzer Division during the Battle of the Bulge". . It probably shows a PzJgr IV fvrom KG Hansen of the 1st SS Panzer Division. This is one of the most heavily reproduced sets of images because they were war booty and therefore out of copyright. It was photograpphed from the N side of the road .

    Is in fact a still from a roll of film taken by a German Cameraman on the road between Poteau and Rech who filmed men form KG Jansen of 1 SS LAH. It is the same set of shots that shows the uber ally German in the Ally Star thread.

    My source is the booklet published by the loical museum called "18th December 1944 What really happened on the road Poteau-Recht identifying where each photogaph was taken..

    Read more: Vivid new Battle of the Bulge photos offer never-before-seen look at the war-weary soldiers braving the frigid weather as they fight off Nazi Germany's last major offensive of World War II | Mail Online
  3. Close but no cigar.

    Check the mantlet, its the 90mm Armed M36 Jackson, aka "Slugger" the folding barrel travel lock is another point of recog since the M10/M10A1 used a stationary one on the engine deck top. The Jackson was quite popular due to the punch of the 90mm tube. Note moving the M2HB so it can be fired from the turret to the front while another gun, likley a .30 was put on the AA Mount on the bustle.

    #12 shows a M4A3E2 Jumbo knocked into a Ditch, though the driver in still inside getting ready for recovery ops. ANd an Early mfr M5A1 passing it. The Jumbo is Likely a 4th Armored vehicle and still carrys the 75mm Tube instead of the later 76mm usually retrofitted
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  4. If you're talking about the same photos reproduced on the front cover of the 'After the Battle' tome, I think they were all re-enactments for a bit of propaganda cine-film?
  5. Yes, it was a "re-enactment" , as was the famously staged photos at the Kaiserbaracke of soldiers from the recce Bn SS LAH, often misidenitified as Peiper.

    No one had head cam in 1944. However, the re-enactment took place among the wreckage of the US cavalry unit which had been ambushed and was within 500m of US positions near Poteau ain the early days of the battle for st Vith. It is likely the cameraman lost his life at some point in the next couple of days. He certainly is unlikely to have survived the war, otherwise he would have identified himself and claimed copyright. ;)
  6. Must re-echo the eyerolling at the "vivid new" line in the Mail article. These pics have been available on the Time online archive for over 2 years.
  7. Let's face it; the Mail is about as accurate as Tropper. You'd think Tropps was writing for them.
  8. He's not ? :?