Basic Parachute Course

#1
I hear that TA airborne troops do a shorter version of the BPC due to already having done some training. What training is this and how long does it take to complete?
Also, does anyone know if there are courses available for TA soldiers this year? I heard at P Coy that there would be a better chance because the regular battalions are on Pre Deployment training.
 
#2
raibeart said:
I hear that TA airborne troops do a shorter version of the BPC due to already having done some training. What training is this and how long does it take to complete?
Also, does anyone know if there are courses available for TA soldiers this year? I heard at P Coy that there would be a better chance because the regular battalions are on Pre Deployment training.
Hint: If - as this post suggests - you are looking for the easy route, Airborne is definitely not for you.

(and I'm a 'Hat' FFS!! )
 
#3
raibeart said:
I hear that TA airborne troops do a shorter version of the BPC due to already having done some training. What training is this and how long does it take to complete?
Also, does anyone know if there are courses available for TA soldiers this year? I heard at P Coy that there would be a better chance because the regular battalions are on Pre Deployment training.
Thats correct Regs do 3 weeks, TA do 2 (difference TA train to L5 before going to Brize, on the course Regs do a night jump) It is just a bit of rolling around on some mats and takes a few Drill nights (when an APJI or PJI is in)

At the moment there is a beck log of Reg courses, but there are going to be slots for TA on reg courses if not fully subscribed. Also as from Mid Sept they'll be 2 Btns in Afghan
 
#4
raibeart said:
I hear that TA airborne troops do a shorter version of the BPC due to already having done some training. What training is this and how long does it take to complete?
Also, does anyone know if there are courses available for TA soldiers this year? I heard at P Coy that there would be a better chance because the regular battalions are on Pre Deployment training.
Thats correct Regs do 3 weeks, TA do 2 (difference TA train to L5 before going to Brize, on the course Regs do a night jump) It is just a bit of rolling around on some mats and takes a few Drill nights (when an APJI or PJI is in)

At the moment there is a beck log of Reg courses, but there are going to be slots for TA on reg courses if not fully subscribed. Also as from Mid Sept they'll be 2 Btns in Afghan
 
#5
17THSEPTEMBER1944 said:
Thats correct Regs do 3 weeks, TA do 2 (difference TA train to L5 before going to Brize, on the course Regs do a night jump) It is just a bit of rolling around on some mats and takes a few Drill nights (when an APJI or PJI is in)
What i saw last time i was around, the whole block allocated was full recently, but i did see a sac (maroon beret and everything) on the course so cant be that full of regs if there letting him slide in, not that he hasnt earned the right to be there!

Also depends on what that single runways up to at brize, and if lyneham sends any more destruction brize way.

Operation requirment will always come first wont it, and brize is going to get more congested soon.
 
#6
The course is shorter mainly to get the ta blokes back to work (is getting taken as holiday for most people). Also planes were dedicated for the course, where as the regular course is if theres a plane available. You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential. TA do do the night jumps but dont do the full dz and march off routine on the final jump that the regs do
 

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#7
bade said:
The course is shorter mainly to get the ta blokes back to work (is getting taken as holiday for most people). Also planes were dedicated for the course, where as the regular course is if theres a plane available. You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential. TA do do the night jumps but dont do the full dz and march off routine on the final jump that the regs do
Wrong on so many counts. The course is shorter to fit within the typical TA training window of two week, but if you fail to complete in the two weeks you will need to recourse or the course may be extended if it is deemed possible to complete within the next few days.

There are airfames earmarked for regular and TA courses, but these are often retasked for operational reasons - there is no such thing as a dedicated TA course aircraft.

The requirement for L5 (landings lesson 5) is absolute - the course picks up from that point, so you will be RTUd if you turn up without an L5 certificate.

Good job this is the rumour service, eh?
 
#9
Good job this is the rumour service, eh?
The_Duke
Sure is. In my day they chucked you out at 200ft if you were TAVR. Shorter turnaround, you see, plus no need for any soft 'reserve'; ie 'Regular' pouffechute.

God, things have gone downhill.
 

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#12
Stonker said:
The_Duke said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
bade said:
You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential.
What, do TA parachutists not have to be able to land or something? :roll:
I don't land, I arrive! :D
If you can walk away - it's a good 'un
Confirmatory wiggle of all extremeties to ensure nothing broken, roll on side for well earned piss then crack on. I am sure that is how it was briefed on my course.
 
#13
The_Duke said:
Stonker said:
The_Duke said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
bade said:
You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential.
What, do TA parachutists not have to be able to land or something? :roll:
I don't land, I arrive! :D
If you can walk away - it's a good 'un
Confirmatory wiggle of all extremeties to ensure nothing broken, roll on side for well earned piss then crack on. I am sure that is how it was briefed on my course.
I do that, every Sunday morning.
 
#14
scarletto said:
The_Duke said:
Stonker said:
The_Duke said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
bade said:
You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential.
What, do TA parachutists not have to be able to land or something? :roll:
I don't land, I arrive! :D
If you can walk away - it's a good 'un
Confirmatory wiggle of all extremeties to ensure nothing broken, roll on side for well earned piss then crack on. I am sure that is how it was briefed on my course.
I do that, every Sunday morning.
I know, yer missus told me, one Monday morning :D
 
#15
The_Duke said:
Bravo_Zulu said:
bade said:
You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential.
What, do TA parachutists not have to be able to land or something? :roll:
I don't land, I arrive! :D
The way you go on about it I thought you came ;)
 
#19
The_Duke said:
bade said:
The course is shorter mainly to get the ta blokes back to work (is getting taken as holiday for most people). Also planes were dedicated for the course, where as the regular course is if theres a plane available. You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential. TA do do the night jumps but dont do the full dz and march off routine on the final jump that the regs do
Wrong on so many counts. The course is shorter to fit within the typical TA training window of two week, but if you fail to complete in the two weeks you will need to recourse or the course may be extended if it is deemed possible to complete within the next few days.

There are airfames earmarked for regular and TA courses, but these are often retasked for operational reasons - there is no such thing as a dedicated TA course aircraft.

The requirement for L5 (landings lesson 5) is absolute - the course picks up from that point, so you will be RTUd if you turn up without an L5 certificate.

Good job this is the rumour service, eh?
Would like to point out that the last jumps course had dedicated aircraft and that L5 certificates werent required as the training was done from the start. Prior training obviously a bonus...........
 

The_Duke

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#20
bade said:
The_Duke said:
bade said:
The course is shorter mainly to get the ta blokes back to work (is getting taken as holiday for most people). Also planes were dedicated for the course, where as the regular course is if theres a plane available. You are supposed to ground train before arriving but it isnt essential. TA do do the night jumps but dont do the full dz and march off routine on the final jump that the regs do
Wrong on so many counts. The course is shorter to fit within the typical TA training window of two week, but if you fail to complete in the two weeks you will need to recourse or the course may be extended if it is deemed possible to complete within the next few days.

There are airfames earmarked for regular and TA courses, but these are often retasked for operational reasons - there is no such thing as a dedicated TA course aircraft.

The requirement for L5 (landings lesson 5) is absolute - the course picks up from that point, so you will be RTUd if you turn up without an L5 certificate.

Good job this is the rumour service, eh?
Would like to point out that the last jumps course had dedicated aircraft and that L5 certificates werent required as the training was done from the start. Prior training obviously a bonus...........
There is no such thing as a dedicated aircraft outside of the dedicated SF fleet. Bids go from requesting units (in this case No1 PTS) to 2 Group RAF who control the fleet. They will then allocate taskings according to priority, availability, role fit, crew competencies etc. These taskings orders are under constant review, and a higher priority tasking being received, or an aircraft tasked to a higher priority going U/S will result in lower priority taskings having airframes withdrawn.

Your "dedicated" airframe just means that an airframe has been tasked to support the course, but they can (and are) withdrawn without notice to support higher priorities.

Take my word on this one bade, I have had quite a bit to do with air taskings.
 

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