Barrack dress or CBT 95 + multi coloured stable belts???

#1
Why did they ever decide that we needed to camouflage ourselves from the red brick and grey granite buildings on camp? I mean our lovely green/brown and black Combat 95 realy does work in this environment doesnt it? and to top it off we get to wear lovely multi coloured stable belts to help break up the pattern.

Whatever happened to the Smart Barrack dress or even lightweight trousers and green shirt instead of wearing combat 95 (when you can actualy get it from the stores....always a waiting list from the depot).

I recetly visited HQ Land and there where so many different dress codes on the unit in one day i lost count, the junior soldiers where as ordered in Combat 95 but the officers were in such a variety of uniforms and mixed dress it would have given anyself respectin RSM a Heart attack...so it appears ! rule for the grunts and no rules for the officers ....well that makes a change dont it......?
 
#3
topcat said:
I recetly visited HQ Land and there where so many different dress codes on the unit in one day i lost count, the junior soldiers where as ordered in Combat 95 but the officers were in such a variety of uniforms and mixed dress it would have given anyself respectin RSM a Heart attack...so it appears ! rule for the grunts and no rules for the officers ....well that makes a change dont it......?
Quite a while since I was at Wilton, but previous GSMs had been selected for their patience, pragmatism and a particularly wry sense of humour. With so many huge fish, from tiny ponds, all now crammed into one smallish aquarium, what they all get up to is perhaps closer to the top of the agenda than what they wear.

Anyway, C95 in PJHQ and Wilton always smacks a bit of flying suits in the ARRC to me. ( perhaps there should be a magnolia DPM so you can hide in the office??)

( PS: is the RQMS still the mainstay of the mess gardens committee??)
 
#4
topcat said:
Whatever happened to the Smart Barrack dress or even lightweight trousers and green shirt instead of wearing combat 95 ?
Smart barrack dress - - as in the shiny nylon? You have either got to be:

a) Joking.

or

b) Visually impaired (in which case I apologise in advance).
 
#5
whatever happened to those jumpers modelled on the RAF's that were introduced a few years back.....think i saw them around for a few months....
 
#7
pah, you know nothing of uniforms unless you either took part in the Grimley Dark unit photo or have a copy of the GD unit photo.
I have never seen so many variations of uniform in one place. :roll:
 
#8
"Have you never heard that if two officers appear at breakfast dressed the same, the junior has to go and change..."

Or any two members of the Int Corps, commissioned or not. We may not have many traditions but that's one we cherish.

Seriously though, working in an office in a purple unit can get farcical. While the Navy and RAF turn up in dress suitable for the environment we wear CS 95 and boots. I'm sure a green equivalent of their uniforms would be cheaper, smarter (well, we'd iron ours) and more practical.
 
#9
Ethel_the_Aardvark said:
Smart barrack dress - - as in the shiny nylon? You have either got to be:

a) Joking.

or

b) Visually impaired (in which case I apologise in advance).
c) A sexual deviant

TC is a pervert - TC is a pervert !!!
 
#10
Ethel_the_Aardvark said:
Smart barrack dress - - as in the shiny nylon? You have either got to be:

a) Joking.

or

b) Visually impaired (in which case I apologise in advance).
Agreed, trousers green, pastic, inflammable are disgusting to wear in summer. We should go back to the old Working Dress of denims and green shirt - smart, practical and reasonably adaptable to temperature. There was a well argued article to that effect in the British Army Review a couple of years back, but obviously no one took any notice.

There was once a phase of wearing a form of denim trouser as barrack dress trousers with SD shirt which was quite smart too, (and much cooler than SD trousers for staff types) but short lived as Pyjama 95 took hold in HQ's.

"Stores is for Storing and Combats is for Combat!" :D

If we didn't wear out Pyjama 95 in barracks ironing lovely IR radiant creases into them, we might have some decent kit left to go into the field with. :evil:
 
#11
Purple_Flash said:
"Stores is for Storing and Combats is for Combat!" :D

If we didn't wear out Pyjama 95 in barracks ironing lovely IR radiant creases into them, we might have some decent kit left to go into the field with. :evil:
you iron combats?
mine are so baggy you'd never notice if i did so i don't :lol:
not good for them anyway
 
#12
George_W_Bush said:
you iron combats?
mine are so baggy you'd never notice if i did so i don't :lol:
not good for them anyway
No, not good for them at all - it destroys some of their properties, and I can get away with not doing it, but various levels of scary monster insist that the boys (and even the subbies via the Adjt!) do it. Result: It makes them look a little better, but destroys any IR reduction and waterproofing and makes them apt to split neatly along the crease! Well ironed 95 jackets look like a glowing web of white lines under IR as their ripstop lines stand out beautifully once ironed.

If we want to look smart but able to do day-to-day stuff, we should wear denims.

My understanding is that the 95 concept was to be battlefield disposable, wear them until too smelly, throw 'em into a corner of a field and put on the nice new DROPS load that has just been delivered; but that, of course was predicated on us actually having the right amount of money to go to war! They were never designed for barrack use and their distinct lack of 'cut' makes them difficult to look smart without destroying them for their intended purpose. :evil:
 
#13
Bring bak denims and OG shirts. A good excuse too wear stable belts.(unless u r in the RLC)

Combat 95 in barracks looks daft when worn with stable belt(especially the RLCs)
 
#14
:cry: :cry: :cry:
You poor dears!!! After years of wearing Trousers, shiny and riddiculous, the barrack room commandos wanted to dress like sodjers.

Now they want their office clothes back!!!

It took me a while to realise what the problem was - you poor underpriveledged things in the English Army don't have barrack dress like our fine regimental jerseys and kilts or trews worn by God's Chosen Men.
 

DangerMouse

Old-Salt
Moderator
#15
Purple_Flash said:
George_W_Bush said:
you iron combats?
mine are so baggy you'd never notice if i did so i don't :lol:
not good for them anyway
No, not good for them at all - it destroys some of their properties, and I can get away with not doing it, but various levels of scary monster insist that the boys (and even the subbies via the Adjt!) do it. Result: It makes them look a little better, but destroys any IR reduction and waterproofing and makes them apt to split neatly along the crease! Well ironed 95 jackets look like a glowing web of white lines under IR as their ripstop lines stand out beautifully once ironed.
I don't remember in what sad journal I read it, but I do distinctly remember that there was an article by, as I recall, a Defence Clothing and Textile Agency (DCTA) IPT, stating that the myth that CS95 couldn't be ironed was just that - a myth. It went on to state that the IR pattern in the material fades at the same rate as the visible colouring - so only once the visible begins to fade does it matter.

I personally believe that for office jobs CS95 only needs to be ironed once a week, but it does need to be; if it's worn straight out of the drying machine it looks abysmal.

The was a sort of 'internal white paper' on reforming the dress system that made its way in to the Officers' First Sight file last Autumn as I recall, that suggested revamping the entire system - including binning service and mess dress in their current form. Has anyone heard anything about it?
 
#16
SKJOLD said:
Bring bak denims and OG shirts. A good excuse too wear stable belts.(unless u r in the RLC)

Combat 95 in barracks looks daft when worn with stable belt(especially the RLCs)
Anything to do with the RLC looks daft , spoilt a bloody good capbadge (RCT) they did whats wrong with wearing smart casual civvies when in barracks. I know, What is smart /casual to one person is going to be Scruffy Mc Duffy to some one else , sod everyone to wear Mess Dress
 
#17
SKJOLD said:
Bring bak denims and OG shirts. A good excuse too wear stable belts.(unless u r in the RLC)Combat 95 in barracks looks daft when worn with stable belt(especially the RLCs)
SHIRTS iTCHY FOR THE OR,S
:twisted:
 

maninblack

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
There are rumours of the demise of service dress in favour of everyone wearing No2s but then there are rumours of No2s not being issued as well.

Then there are rumours of BDs coming back, lightweights being reintroduced and a whole host of other rumours.


Then there was the rumour about an para field hospital (also never came to pass) the AMS all wearing a single cap badge, the RAF regiment and the Booties coming under the control of Green World and the total disbandment of the RAF with the assets split between us and the Fish-Heads. That is the great thing about Green World, it is the most energy efficient system on the planet; powered only by recycled rumours.
 
#19
One_of_the_strange said:
Seriously though, working in an office in a purple unit can get farcical. While the Navy and RAF turn up in dress suitable for the environment we wear CS 95 and boots. I'm sure a green equivalent of their uniforms would be cheaper, smarter (well, we'd iron ours) and more practical.
F##K OFF! do you know how much extra work the RAF blue uniform is to keep neat & tidy compared to cs95? obviously not. you have to wear a freash, clean, pressed light blue (ref to as wedgewood) shirt every day, compared to '95 shirts that you can wear for 3 days after a good iron before the first day, just hang up in the evenings & put on a clean t-shirt underneath each day.
the RAF blue trousers are iron every night jobs to & are not that comfortable to wear.
there is also a lack of pockets, so they are not very practicable & you have to resort to have a small bag for your stuff (i.e no pocket big enough for a notebook. pen pockets not big enough for pens. unsightly bulges casued by mobile phones, wallets, etc) & crease very easily, so much so that you are afraid to bend over or reach up for things.

ch###, I've resarected an old thread here!
 
#20
i would rather be dry bum fcuked with an EVHF and pu12 mast than have to go back to denims.

practical for desk jockeys, cant see it lasting long on the tank park. one drop of oil and no amount of vanish is gonna get it off. at least cs95 hides it a little!! :)
most people are affected by sweat rings too!!! including the skinny barstewards not only the fat knackers.

i went through more denim in exchanges than i ever have with cs95.
 

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