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Baroness Warsi in potential new expenses fiddle

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
#1
Will they ever learn - continued...

Increasing questions are being asked about Warsi's expenses.

Cabinet minister Baroness Warsi admits breaking cash rules - Telegraph

Baroness Warsi said she did not tell House of Lords authorities that she was receiving income from a London property she had bought and rented out. She apologised last night for the breach of parliamentary guidelines, blaming “an oversight, for which I take full responsibility”. However, she claimed she had paid tax on the rent.
Tory chairman Baroness Warsi admits breaking rules by failing to declare rental income on London home | Mail Online

Conservative co-chairman Baroness Warsi is facing calls for an investigation into her expenses over allegations that she claimed for overnight accommodation when staying at a friend's house rent-free. Lady Warsi, a cabinet minister championed by David Cameron, insists that she made an 'appropriate payment' for the 'occasional nights' she stayed at a property occupied, but not owned by Tory official Naweed Khan. Labour MP John Mann said he would be asking the Lords commissioner for standards to investigate.

Mr Khan, who later became Lady Warsi's special adviser, today backed her claim, releasing a statement saying she made a payment each time she stayed at the property. However - according to reports in The Sunday Times and The Sunday Telegraph - the owner of the property in Acton, West London, denies that he received any income from either Lady Warsi or Mr Khan.
As yet unproven, but is anyone else suffering a sense of deja vu?

Wordsmith
 
#3
Nothing ever changes in Politics,,cheating, self serving, arrogant, useless,overpaid cnuts that they all are and always be.Thank God for British Politicos,the world would be boring without them....
 
#5
Sanctimonious, pious witch that she is I really hope she gets hammered for this. Having repeatedly proved unelectable, hence the Peerage, she should not even be in political office in my book.
 
#6
Yet another "oversight", with a politician raking in yet more illicit cabbage. But will the predictable public outcry mask a degree of hypocrisy? How many genuinely honest people are there in the UK today? I'm having some minor work done on the house and have been offered a 'cash only' deal, by a locally-recommended and competent tradesman, for considerably less than I'd expected. Is it my business whether he's paying all the income tax/VAT he should? Should I turn a blind eye and save (quite) a few bob myself, or go elsewhere, pay more and possibly get inferior quality, but with a clear conscience? A pal of mine, a decorated and otherwise decent ex-infantryman, once told me he'd found £200 sticking out of an ATM, which he pocketed without a qualm. And is there one among us who can honestly say that he never 'massaged' a 1771 now and then, if only for a few extra quid/Marks? I know I did. It's a commonplace to say that we were a more honest nation 30 or 40 years ago, but is it really true? On balance, I think it is - but not by that much.
 
#7
Yet another "oversight", with a politician raking in yet more illicit cabbage. But will the predictable public outcry mask a degree of hypocrisy? How many genuinely honest people are there in the UK today? I'm having some minor work done on the house and have been offered a 'cash only' deal, by a locally-recommended and competent tradesman, for considerably less than I'd expected. Is it my business whether he's paying all the income tax/VAT he should? Should I turn a blind eye and save (quite) a few bob myself, or go elsewhere, pay more and possibly get inferior quality, but with a clear conscience? A pal of mine, a decorated and otherwise decent ex-infantryman, once told me he'd found £200 sticking out of an ATM, which he pocketed without a qualm. And is there one among us who can honestly say that he never 'massaged' a 1771 now and then, if only for a few extra quid/Marks? I know I did. It's a commonplace to say that we were a more honest nation 30 or 40 years ago, but is it really true? On balance, I think it is - but not by that much.
Not the point. Neither you, I or your mate have dedicated our lives to seeking public office in order to dictate the rules to others. She is quite happy to go on Question Time etc and lecture on morality and, in the current economic climate, how public money is spent.

Burn the Witch
 
#8
Two years ago when this scandal first blew up I was doing jury service, every single one of my fellow jurors whilst having very strong "hang 'em all" opinions on the fiddling politicians proceeded to fiddle their court expenses.
 
#9
Not the point. Neither you, I or your mate have dedicated our lives to seeking public office in order to dictate the rules to others. She is quite happy to go on Question Time etc and lecture on morality and, in the current economic climate, how public money is spent.

Burn the Witch
Bonk her first.
 
#11
A number of Squadies have done 'Military Bird', 'Civi Bird' and been Discharged for similar oversights.

Yet another Politican with her nose in the pigs feeding trough, ripping off the hard working tax payer.

Our mate Dave says we are all in this together.

I believe that when she is banged up at Holliway.

Bring on the Military Revolution and put this type of SCUM against the wall.

7.62 justice is the way to go.
 
#12
Not the point. Neither you, I or your mate have dedicated our lives to seeking public office in order to dictate the rules to others. She is quite happy to go on Question Time etc and lecture on morality and, in the current economic climate, how public money is spent.

Burn the Witch
I don't dispute that, and I'm the last to have sympathy for politicos of any stamp; I just think there'll be more than a hint of 'holier than thou' in the general public (and especially press) reaction. 'Twas ever thus, I suppose.
 
#13
Warsi and 'bigotry' and 'prejudice' towards Muslims
Baroness Warsi, the Conservative Party chairman, is reported to be complaining about 'bigotry' and 'prejudice' towards Muslims.

I mourn the passing of my younger days when there were very few Muslims in this country and certainly no prejudice towards them. Our country's problems in this respect started with the influx of these people with their alien attitudes and the problems have been exacerbated by the alien behaviour of some of the Muslims. Islam and the Muslims are imported problems. As Enoch Powell said, 'We must be mad.'

The landlord of the premises Mr Khan says she never paid any money for rent and utility bills,,,So it would seem even Ms Warsi is prepared to abuse a fellow Muslim,,,Hypocrite.
 
#14
I don't dispute that, and I'm the last to have sympathy for politicos of any stamp; I just think there'll be more than a hint of 'holier than thou' in the general public (and especially press) reaction. 'Twas ever thus, I suppose.
Agree. We all like to see our "betters' get caught and punished. But if I am caught out for anything I expect to accept the consequences. She should be no different.
 
#15
I'm a little confused, she hasn't declared income that she should have declared. Now my understanding is that that declaration is necessary in case that income might be the cause of bias. IE being paid as a consultant for a firm with a vested interest. Her income is from rental and she has paid tax on it although I fully take the point she should have declared it and she has broken Parliamentary rules by not doing so but I fail to see what expenses she's fiddled. Can someone enlighten me please?

Edited to add: Seen the bit about where she stayed overnight but she says she paid and her advisor says she paid. With one company I worked for we were paid £115 per night if we had to stay over anywhere. It didn't matter where we stayed we got £115 and that covered accommodation and food, we weren't asked to provide receipts even if the company didn't book the accommodation. Is the allowance claimed an overnight one or is it specific to receipts in which case where are the recipts she submitted? If they are forgeries then send her to prison.
 
#16
A number of Squadies have done 'Military Bird', 'Civi Bird' and been Discharged for similar oversights.

Yet another Politican with her nose in the pigs feeding trough, ripping off the hard working tax payer.

Our mate Dave says we are all in this together.

I believe that when she is banged up at Holliway.

Bring on the Military Revolution and put this type of SCUM against the wall.

7.62 justice is the way to go.

Bleeding heart liberal.
 
#17
Yet another "oversight", with a politician raking in yet more illicit cabbage. But will the predictable public outcry mask a degree of hypocrisy? How many genuinely honest people are there in the UK today? I'm having some minor work done on the house and have been offered a 'cash only' deal, by a locally-recommended and competent tradesman, for considerably less than I'd expected. Is it my business whether he's paying all the income tax/VAT he should? Should I turn a blind eye and save (quite) a few bob myself, or go elsewhere, pay more and possibly get inferior quality, but with a clear conscience? A pal of mine, a decorated and otherwise decent ex-infantryman, once told me he'd found £200 sticking out of an ATM, which he pocketed without a qualm. And is there one among us who can honestly say that he never 'massaged' a 1771 now and then, if only for a few extra quid/Marks? I know I did. It's a commonplace to say that we were a more honest nation 30 or 40 years ago, but is it really true? On balance, I think it is - but not by that much.
Just use politicians as a measuring stick, if they are out there stating how we are all in it together whilst they take the piss and continue to con the taxpayer then clearly you are going to do what you can do save yourself some money.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
The landlord of the premises Mr Khan says she never paid any money for rent and utility bills,,,So it would seem even Ms Warsi is prepared to abuse a fellow Muslim,,,Hypocrite.

From what was being siad on the news last night it seems Mr Khan ran straight to the papers as soon as he found out he wasn't getting a cut of her cash.

As to the earlier point - there was many a career in the Armed Forces ruined by a dodgy expence claim in the 90's when there was a big purge in the mid 90's.
 
#19
"For the nights that I stayed as a guest of Naweed Khan, I made an appropriate financial payment equivalent to what I was paying at the time in hotel costs."
To me, that clearly implies that she was claiming accommodation charges. If not, why should she make the point that she (allegedly) paid anything?

However, Mr Naweed was actually staying rent-free at Dr Moustafa’s home in London, meaning that by extension Baroness Warsi was receiving his hospitality.
I interpret that to mean that she, too, was staying rent-free and paid neither man anything. If that is so, and if she DID claim expenses on the public purse, she's a liar and a thief and should be thrown to the wolves.
 

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