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Baroness Warsi attempting to bury expenses by being controversial

#5
But she is a bit more Muslim than you are ..... ;-)
"In the school, the kids say: 'The family next door are Muslim but they're not too bad'.

"And in the road, as a woman walks past wearing a burka, the passers-by think: 'That woman's either oppressed or is making a political statement'."
Where is she getting these statements from? She is blatantly making things up out of thin air to suit her agenda. And you don't need to be a member of a religion to encounter prejudice. ;)
 
#6
I think the emphasis placed here by Baroness Warsi is somewhat one sided.

I see just as much prejudice from individuals who happen to be Muslim, to those outside their faith, no more, no less.
 

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#7
Where is she getting these statements from? She is blatantly making things up out of thin air to suit her agenda. And you don't need to be a member of a religion to encounter prejudice. ;)
Everyone has an agenda - your paraphrasing of the article is an example you use to support your view. That a polititian has one is not the breaking revelation of the morning....
 
#9
She's right.
We have a divided society. Where she is wrong is her emphasis.
She claims non Muslims are guilty of prejudice whereas most people I know see the Muslim community as setting itself aside from fully integrating into British life.
 
#10
Baroness Warsi, co-chairman of the Tory Party, will warn against dividing Muslims into moderates and extremists.
Eh ??

Some muslims are extremists and some aren't whats her problem ? However in order not to offend the Warsi woman, I will no longer divide muslims into extremists and moderates. I will assume they are all extremists.
 
#11
She has always come across as rather sensible and astute, so I would at least give some credence to anything she comes out with.
I think your right in saying she's always come across as sensible and astute in the past, and while there may be some truth in what she is saying, there is also an agenda as other posters have mentioned, she's a politician and any thing a politician says has to be treated with the utmost caution.
 
#13
She's right.
We have a divided society. Where she is wrong is her emphasis.
She claims non Muslims are guilty of prejudice whereas most people I know see the Muslim community as setting itself aside from fully integrating into British life.
I am indeed not questioning that, the Muslim population in my area do tend to segregate theirselves, which is somehow everyone elses fault she would have you believe. The issue is of course her attempt at being controversial and claiming everybody is against them.

There is actually something rather amusing going on in my area, as apparently they tend to keep all their money in their home rather than a bank a lot of houses in their community have being broken into and they have had their belongings taken, by people from their own community.
 
#14
What immediately springs to mind for me, somewhat cynically I can't deny, is it makes her a potential martyr(sic). Any negative action, criticism or stagnation to her career can now be referred back to this 'observation' as the reason for such.

I may of course be completely wrong and she has a deep conviction that the muslim population is in grave danger from the traditionally bigoted British public. Not that I have witnessed any.
 
#15
If someone is booking out the bus can they pick me up for this one please. Maybe Baroness Warsi would like to talk about it at the same time?

Mothers barred from women and children's group because of Britishness - Telegraph

S_R
At the risk of playing devils advocate, I wonder just what the reaction would be if you set up a white only playgroup.

A spokeswoman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said under the Equality Act 2010 it is not unlawful to set up a group especially for a particular ethnic or national group.
 
#16
At the risk of playing devils advocate, I wonder just what the reaction would be if you set up a white only playgroup.
The best bit I found is that the first 'aim' on the list for the group that excluded them is:

To develop cross-cultural friendships
Obviously this doesn't extend to the local British culture. So by excluding the British aren't they just perpetuating the exclusion that that seek to remove?

S_R
 
#19
At the risk of playing devils advocate, I wonder just what the reaction would be if you set up a white only playgroup.
A spokeswoman for the Equality and Human Rights Commission, said under the Equality Act 2010 it is not unlawful to set up a group especially for a particular ethnic or national group.
Drawing from the snippet from the Equalities Act above what's to stop a community from starting an, for example, Anglo-Saxon group. That is, a group for people who are of Anglo-Saxon descent and not the general English or people who are British citizens. Given that genetic populous mapping is so established these days it must have some sort of credence?

Not By Strength, By Guile.
 

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