Barbour Jackets 'matter of taste' thread

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LE
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A lot of Barbour and Belstaff kit is now for fashion and not function.
They made one last attempt at a good shooting coat with Lord Percy advertising it, its been mentioned before, what a surprise it wasnt waxed, wax cotton is a fashion item
The Nortumberland. Its ok in Cumbria and north, everywhere else its too hot and heavy to use.
 
I have the Durham barbour jacket and really do like the look of it. Only complaint I have about it is, I run hot so the material that lines the sleeves collects moisture quite badly, especially if I'm wearing a t shirt and if the day is too warm, it can be like pulling your arms out of a wetsuit, so I tend to only use it if it's cold.
 
Ah, but my expensive mechanical watch has increased in value by 500%, whereas the quartz abomination....?
Depends how long you have had it. The watch that I got in 1966 cost US$235. It is now worth 30 or 40 times that I understand.
Of course now a clean, lube, etc now costs 3 or 5 times what the watch cost new.
 
This is also the argument for expensive mechanical watch vs quartz abomination...
I have a cheap mechanical self winder, An early 80s Seiko, great watch and if it gets damaged I can replace it with a similar one or a citizen reconditioned and serviced for under £25.
 
Dont Talk to me about about fancy watches ,1999 some theiving Brisbane bastard ,robbed our house in Inala stealing the mrs,s jewellery ,my medals and a stainless steel Omega Seamaster, insurance only put a replacement valuation on it, so I bought an allsinging and dancing ,bombproof ,waterproof, bullet and bullshit proof gold dipped Seiko digital monster watch, 3 months into the warrantythe bombproof glas went cloudy ,so back it went to the manufacturer, got it back with new glass and seals and a warning to be careful when workin with acid, WTF I was a Working Curator of an Animal sanctuary, if it aint cute and cuddly or poisonous I dont touch it,some one suggested Koala piss, we put a rust piece ofclose link wire mesh in a bowl of pish ,in four weeks there was just residue in the bowl,later the bracelet fell apart ,this time Seiko told me to Foxtrot Oscar, they did not give a warranty against Koala Pish,if doubted correspondence with seiko can be shown:mad::mad::mad:
 
Personally I’d choose Drizabone any day. There’s an old Australian saying “if you want to go into the bush, wear a Barbour or a Drizabone, but if you want to come out again wear a Drizabone”
 
Trained in the same school of housekeeping as my Batswana maid who used up a box of Brillo to get the seasoning off my de Buyer pans.
Ah yes, and boils a 2kg fillet steak left out to defrost for a barbecue in the belief it's dog food because it's not chewy and doesn't have shards of bone in it.
 
The only problem with the cheap tweed is its generally quilted lined, heavy and very hot. I rarely wear my tweed down here as it rarely drops cold enough in the season. When you consider driven Partridges in September here are shot in shorts and shirt sleeves it sort of sets the tone. Decathlon sell Verney Carron stuff so the lines change usually every year. My coat is now three seasons old and hasnt ripped despite some vigorous wear. So thats £11 a year so far. Set against a Musto which is lightweight but not goretex MEN'S FENLAND WASHABLE WATERPROOF BR2 SHOOTING JACKET | Musto
costs £225 and shreds when I even looked at going into a wood, it also gets sopping wet inside walking the mile and a half to the station in it. Frankly a crap buy and one I will never repeat.
Bloke who owns this place is quite reasonable and will do custom stuff if you ask nicely.

Big John Clothing - Specialists in outdoor, corporate and camo wear
 
Back in the early 60,sI was the proud owner of a sleek Norton Dommy 600,used to ride home from Middle wallop to warrington every chance I got,one of the pilot students sold me a Belstaff jacket and trousers,a bit oldfashioned stone age zips and studs,but it was dry and warm and smelled like sardines, but I kept it waxed and clean, it was the go to thing for winter carp and pike fishing,Iwas zee krazy tommy who haunted the hills and woods above Vogelsang hunting winter fox and Pine Marten with my trusty eagle owl Barney, but as usual I digress,in february 83 my boss sent us out to south africa to take part in the last huge elephant cull,our job was to catch out all the babies to ship back to zoos in europe,coming home to Hellenthal in the winter snow,my boxhead psychobitch wife, had once morehad a huge brainfart and decided to clean out my and I mean mykit room in the attic, so she called a 2nd hand dealer from roetgen he gladly took oodles of rods and fishing gear, my collection of blowpipes from all over the world,at that time I wasteaching the use of tranquiliser darts using blowpipes and guns for a Company called Telinject, these all went including my beloved Belstaff Suit and suits ang smocks,my hardy rods and reels you can see ondisplay today in an Aachen Hunting shop, so thats my waxcoat story, I have a tear in my eye as I write ,but I have the satisfaction of knowing that physcho bitches ashes are in an eggtimer on the mantle piece in my grandsons house in Minden
How many times has the egg timer been up a hooker's arse?

Asking for a friend *cough*...
 
I brought a pair of the wax cotton Barbour Trails Trousers for about £80 from the Barbour Bicester Outlet Shop. I contacted the Barbour head Office and they sent me a pair of brass buckles to replace the plastic type buckles on the bottom of the trouser legs. Good customer service at Bicester if you get the right member of staff. Normally the ladies are more enthusiastic about helping you then some of the men. The Trials Master Jacket was issued to Army Rider's in the early 80's as they came with the Can Am Bombardier in the panniers. All big sizes which was ideal as you could get loads of warm kit underneath them in winter. The Original Trials Master Jacket is a loose fitting jacket and some came with a tail piece to button up between the legs AKA similar to the PARA SMOCK. A lot of Barbour and Belstaff kit is now for fashion and not function.
B*gg*r, I spent years ridng around in second rate gear becaue I couldn't find any mention of trousers, ah well water, in this case not so much under the bridge as elsewhere.
 
Personally I’d choose Drizabone any day. There’s an old Australian saying “if you want to go into the bush, wear a Barbour or a Drizabone, but if you want to come out again wear a Drizabone”
If I ever "come out", it won't be wearing a drizabone.
It will be with lederhosen and a feather boa.
 
I have a cheap mechanical self winder, An early 80s Seiko, great watch and if it gets damaged I can replace it with a similar one or a citizen reconditioned and serviced for under £25.
Where do you get your citizen serviced ? I have a diver that's very unsettled .
 
Depends how long you have had it. The watch that I got in 1966 cost US$235. It is now worth 30 or 40 times that I understand.
Of course now a clean, lube, etc now costs 3 or 5 times what the watch cost new.
I bought mine in '65 for £100, price now around the £5,000. Last time I replaced the bracelet it cost more than the watch had! Serviced last year, over £500. Wore it 24/7 since I bought it.
Not a pretty watch now. I was sliding down a track, with a radio on my back which was hampering me somewhat. Roots were slipping through my hands, so it seemed a good idea to twist my wrist thus digging my watch, less than a year old, into the mud trying to slow myself down. Gave up, sat up and slid to the bottom in the hope there wasn't any roots lurking, waiting to turn me into a eunuch! Phew, made it.
As I said, not pretty, but it's my not pretty one. Been with me a long time, and I won't part with it until the wooden overcoat is worn.
 

foxs_marine

War Hero
Ah, but my expensive mechanical watch has increased in value by 500%, whereas the quartz abomination....?
Indeed so. They have their place but will never have the values...
 

foxs_marine

War Hero
They made one last attempt at a good shooting coat with Lord Percy advertising it, its been mentioned before, what a surprise it wasnt waxed, wax cotton is a fashion item
The Nortumberland. Its ok in Cumbria and north, everywhere else its too hot and heavy to use.
Yep, that's the one I've got. I can't understand why I'm so attached to it - it's heavy, hot & uncomfortable most of the time, cold some of the time & useful on a few days here & there. Yet getting rid of it would be like kicking the dog...
 
Growing up in a rural-ish environment I have had a few Barbours and knock offs.
Air gap is important apparently, you've got to factor in what you're wearing underneath and get a size that leaves enough breathability, otherwise I end up soaked in sweat if doing any actual work outside. It's not the ideal coat for banging in fenceposts really. But the waterproof, windproof and not least thornproof aspect is a godsend sometimes.
Also you have to think of how heavy a weight of cotton you go for.

Yes when nicely worn in they do smell of dried sweat, dogs, manure, gear oil, horses and of course wax. The more tramp-like it looks and smells the classier you are.
Dogs agree, people on the Tube in London just sniff and give you funny looks.

The wax is actually part of their structure and without it the Egyptian cotton doesn't have much tensile strength, so what cuts their life short is rips through lack of wax when I get slack and stop breaking out the wax and hairdryer.

Yeah there's definitely better outdoor coats available than Edwardian relics fitted with a brass zip but somehow they don't seem to stay the course and I'm left with greasy old Barbours again.

Barbour, like Hunter wellies and Land-Rover, seem more interested in the posy suburban twat market nowadays. But that said they haven't gone full retard and slapped the name on cheap made in China crap like the aforementioned. Yet.
Aussie firm DrizaBone still make them old school quality, albeit a heavier grade of cotton than Barbour, and they too go nicely with a pair of RM Williams boots.
There was a time ( think The City mid 70's) when the young thrusters on the trading floors made their juniors wear their Barbours to break them in so others would think they had not just bought the coat and that they had owned it for decades.
 

HE117

LE
Hmm..

Abandoned Barbours many years ago.. not only because they got too hot and heavy, but in some degree as retribution for turning the last gun dealer in Edinburgh (Dicksons) into a clothes shop..!

I now favour Schoffel from my main outfitter, Elm of Burford (to be found in a muddy field near you..!) I am on my second Ptarmigan jacket for the winter shifting to their Ketton jacket in the summer.. The latter reminds me of the jackets we used to make in the rigging room at Netheravon in the early 70s from old green or cammo reserves.. Useless as protective garments, but ally as fck! (some folk think that Hoodies are a new thing..!)
 
But the Akubra is a wee bit out of place;)
Bit pricy for me, I do have an Aussie hat though - a Barmah, greasy and keeps my head dry and stops my glasses getting wet. It's made out kangaroo hide.
Guess Skippy the bush kangaroo's subsequent career didn't pan out.
 
Not waterproof but as a travel jacket where you want lots of pockets this is a good call. I have one of the nubuck leather bandera ones. The pocket layout would have a pickpocket tied in knots trying to find your wallet.


One big downside, on mine at least, the lining is not well executed so it sags forward, a few stitches to hold it to the side seam of the jacket to keep it from falling forward gives a pretty smart very comfortable jacket that has IIRC 9 pockets to stash stuff in, including a zipped key pocket in one of the exterior pockets.
Thanks for the info, as a frequent air traveller I could do with something like this with loads of pockets, saves time passing everything through the X-ray machine. Have pointed it out to my better half as a possible birthday present to me but she hates it. Might just buy one then. Not too sure about the leather elbow patches, has fashion come full circle since geography teachers of the 1970s?
 

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