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BAOR orbat for the early 80s

#3
Can't vouch for it...

British Order of Battle – Mid 1980



In 1980 the British Army was still organised in the “Task Force” system. The idea was that each Division would have 2 “Task Forces”, which were essentially large brigades. Sufficient equipment had been ordered in the late 70’s to make sure that by the time of GDW’s Twilight War all BAOR Infantry would be Warrior equipped, and Saxon would be equipping all the TA BAOR roled battalions. Challenger was to supplement, not replace Chieftain.



The problem was one of manpower. By moving to 4 large Armoured Divisions (from 3 small Divisions), Britain could not keep the BAOR at full strength, as there were other operational tasks such as Northern Ireland, training etc. to do. The solution was to keep the Divisions at 50-67% strength, to be reinforced to full strength in time of war.



In 1982, this structure was abandoned for a 2.5 Armoured Division structure, with the majority of the forces in Germany. Two armoured divisions (1st and 4th) were the FEBA (Forward Edge of Battle Area) Divisions, while a reserve division (3rd) had only two brigades, 1 armoured, 1 mech, with another held in the UK. The 2nd Division became a TA centred Infantry Division.



British Army of the Rhine (1st British Army)



Berlin Field Force

Royal Hussars (1 Sqn, the remainder at the Land Warfare Centre)

1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards

2nd Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

1st Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers



1st Armoured Division



16th/5th Lancers (Recce)



TF A

14th/20th Hussars

2nd Royal Tank Regiment

1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards

3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers



TF B

1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards

1st Royal Tank Regiment

1st Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment



2nd Armoured Division



Queen’s Royal Irish Hussars (Recce)



TF C

The Life Guards

4th Royal Tank Regiment

2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards



TF D

5th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards

1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

1st Battalion, Duke of Edinburgh’s Regiment



3rd Armoured Division



15th/19th Hussars (Recce)



TF E

Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

1st Battalion, Royal Highland Fusiliers

1st Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters



TF F

3rd Royal Tank Regiment

1st Battalion, Black Watch



4th Armoured Division



4th/7th Dragoon Guards (Recce)



TF G

Queen’s Own Hussars

1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment

1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington’s Regiment



TF H

9th/12th Royal Lancers

1st Battalion, Royal Welsh Fusiliers



5th Field Force

1st Battalion, Devon and Dorset Regiment

1st Battalion, Green Howards (deployed at Catterick, UK)

1st Battalion, King’s Own Scottish Borderers



HQ, Northern Ireland



3 Infantry Brigade

1st Battalion, Scots Guards



8 Infantry Brigade

1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment



39 Infantry Brigade

2nd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

2nd Battalion, Parachute Regiment



Overseas Forces



Belize Field Force

1st Battalion, Cheshire Regiment



Brunei Field Force

1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles

1st Battalion, 10th Gurkha Rifles



Cyprus Field Force

3rd Battalion, Light Infantry

1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment



Gibraltar Field Force

2nd Battalion, Light Infantry



Gurkha Field Force (Hong Kong)

1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment

1st Battalion, Queen’s Own Highlanders

2nd Battalion, 6th Gurkha Rifles

1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles

Salerno Company, 41 (Independent) Commando RM



United Kingdom Land Forces



6th Field Force (Strategic Reserve)

The Blues and Royals

1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales

1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment

3rd Battalion, Parachute Regiment



7th Field Force (Reinforces BAOR)

2nd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment

1st Battalion, King’s Regiment

3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers



8th Field Force (Home Defence)

13/18 Royal Hussars (Recce)

17/21 Queen’s Royal Lancers (Tank)

1st Battalion, Light Infantry

2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers

2nd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets



3 Commando Brigade

40 Commando RM

42 Commando RM

45 Commando RM



Allied Mobile Force (Land)

1st Battalion, Prince of Wales’s Own Regiment



Unbrigaded Units (Reinforce BAOR formations in wartime)



Canturbury: 1st Battalion, Queen’s Regiment



Church Crookham: 1st Battalion, 2nd Gurkha Rifles



Dover: 3rd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment



Edinburgh: 1st Battalion, Royal Scots and 1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders



Houndslow: 1st Battalion, Royal Green Jackets



London: 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards, 2nd Battalion, Scots Guards, 1st Battalion, Irish Guards and 1st Battalion, Welsh Guards



Oakington: 3rd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets



Weeton: 1st Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment



?: Albuhera and Tiger Companies (Cadres of 4th Battalions of the Queen’s and Royal Anglian Regiments)



Territorial Army Units reinforcing BAOR in event of war (approximate at the moment, based on 1986 roles)



Royal Yeomanry (Recce for 5th Field Force)

Queen’s Own Yeomanry (Recce for 7th Field Force)

1st Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers

5th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment

5th/8th Battalion, King’s Regiment (1st Lancastrian Volunteers)

4th Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment

5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

1st Battalion, Wessex Regiment (Rifle Volunteers) – UKMF

5th (Shropshire and Herefordshire) Battalion, Light Infantry

7th (Durham) Battalion, Light Infantry

1st Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers

1st Battalion, Mercian Volunteers

5th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

6th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales

4th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers (North Irish Militia)

5th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers

3rd Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters

1st Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers

2nd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers

4th Battalion, Royal Green Jackets

4th (Yorkshire) Battalion, Parachute Regiment

10th (London) Battalion, Parachute Regiment

15th (Scottish) Battalion, Parachute Regiment



Territorial Army Units dedicated to home defence (All structured as Home Defence Infantry Battalions, including the Yeomanry)



Royal Wessex Yeomanry

Queen’s Own Mercian Yeomanry

Duke of Lancaster’s Yeomanry

2nd Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers

6th/7th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment

4th Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment (2nd Lancastrian Volunteers)

6th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

2nd Battalion, Wessex Regiment

6th (Somerset and Cornwall) Battalion, Light Infantry

2nd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers

3rd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers

2nd Battalion, Mercian Volunteers

7th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

3rd Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers

4th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales

3rd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers



There are the following Regional units in the British Orbat

1st – 11th Battalions, Ulster Defence Regiment

Gibraltar Regiment

Royal Hong Kong Regiment

Bermuda Regiment

Falklands Islands Defence Force (1 Coy)
 
#7
bigpod said:
Can't vouch for it...

British Order of Battle – Mid 1980



In 1980 the British Army was still organised in the “Task Force” system. The idea was that each Division would have 2 “Task Forces”, which were essentially large brigades. Sufficient equipment had been ordered in the late 70’s to make sure that by the time of GDW’s Twilight War all BAOR Infantry would be Warrior equipped, and Saxon would be equipping all the TA BAOR roled battalions. Challenger was to supplement, not replace Chieftain.



The problem was one of manpower. By moving to 4 large Armoured Divisions (from 3 small Divisions), Britain could not keep the BAOR at full strength, as there were other operational tasks such as Northern Ireland, training etc. to do. The solution was to keep the Divisions at 50-67% strength, to be reinforced to full strength in time of war.



In 1982, this structure was abandoned for a 2.5 Armoured Division structure, with the majority of the forces in Germany. Two armoured divisions (1st and 4th) were the FEBA (Forward Edge of Battle Area) Divisions, while a reserve division (3rd) had only two brigades, 1 armoured, 1 mech, with another held in the UK. The 2nd Division became a TA centred Infantry Division.



British Army of the Rhine (1st British Army)



Berlin Field Force

Royal Hussars (1 Sqn, the remainder at the Land Warfare Centre)

1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards

2nd Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

1st Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers



1st Armoured Division



16th/5th Lancers (Recce)



TF A

14th/20th Hussars

2nd Royal Tank Regiment

1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards

3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers



TF B

1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards

1st Royal Tank Regiment

1st Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment



2nd Armoured Division



Queen’s Royal Irish Hussars (Recce)



TF C

The Life Guards

4th Royal Tank Regiment

2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards



TF D

5th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards

1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

1st Battalion, Duke of Edinburgh’s Regiment



3rd Armoured Division



15th/19th Hussars (Recce)



TF E

Royal Scots Dragoon Guards

1st Battalion, Royal Highland Fusiliers

1st Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters



TF F

3rd Royal Tank Regiment

1st Battalion, Black Watch



4th Armoured Division



4th/7th Dragoon Guards (Recce)



TF G

Queen’s Own Hussars

1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment

1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington’s Regiment



TF H

9th/12th Royal Lancers

1st Battalion, Royal Welsh Fusiliers



5th Field Force

1st Battalion, Devon and Dorset Regiment

1st Battalion, Green Howards (deployed at Catterick, UK)

1st Battalion, King’s Own Scottish Borderers



HQ, Northern Ireland



3 Infantry Brigade

1st Battalion, Scots Guards



8 Infantry Brigade

1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment



39 Infantry Brigade

2nd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

2nd Battalion, Parachute Regiment



Overseas Forces



Belize Field Force

1st Battalion, Cheshire Regiment



Brunei Field Force

1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles

1st Battalion, 10th Gurkha Rifles



Cyprus Field Force

3rd Battalion, Light Infantry

1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment



Gibraltar Field Force

2nd Battalion, Light Infantry



Gurkha Field Force (Hong Kong)

1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment

1st Battalion, Queen’s Own Highlanders

2nd Battalion, 6th Gurkha Rifles

1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles

Salerno Company, 41 (Independent) Commando RM



United Kingdom Land Forces



6th Field Force (Strategic Reserve)

The Blues and Royals

1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales

1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment

3rd Battalion, Parachute Regiment



7th Field Force (Reinforces BAOR)

2nd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment

1st Battalion, King’s Regiment

3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers



8th Field Force (Home Defence)

13/18 Royal Hussars (Recce)

17/21 Queen’s Royal Lancers (Tank)

1st Battalion, Light Infantry

2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers

2nd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets



3 Commando Brigade

40 Commando RM

42 Commando RM

45 Commando RM



Allied Mobile Force (Land)

1st Battalion, Prince of Wales’s Own Regiment



Unbrigaded Units (Reinforce BAOR formations in wartime)



Canturbury: 1st Battalion, Queen’s Regiment



Church Crookham: 1st Battalion, 2nd Gurkha Rifles



Dover: 3rd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment



Edinburgh: 1st Battalion, Royal Scots and 1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders



Houndslow: 1st Battalion, Royal Green Jackets



London: 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards, 2nd Battalion, Scots Guards, 1st Battalion, Irish Guards and 1st Battalion, Welsh Guards



Oakington: 3rd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets



Weeton: 1st Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment



?: Albuhera and Tiger Companies (Cadres of 4th Battalions of the Queen’s and Royal Anglian Regiments)



Territorial Army Units reinforcing BAOR in event of war (approximate at the moment, based on 1986 roles)



Royal Yeomanry (Recce for 5th Field Force)

Queen’s Own Yeomanry (Recce for 7th Field Force)

1st Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers

5th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment

5th/8th Battalion, King’s Regiment (1st Lancastrian Volunteers)

4th Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment

5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

1st Battalion, Wessex Regiment (Rifle Volunteers) – UKMF

5th (Shropshire and Herefordshire) Battalion, Light Infantry

7th (Durham) Battalion, Light Infantry

1st Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers

1st Battalion, Mercian Volunteers

5th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

6th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales

4th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers (North Irish Militia)

5th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers

3rd Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters

1st Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers

2nd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers

4th Battalion, Royal Green Jackets

4th (Yorkshire) Battalion, Parachute Regiment

10th (London) Battalion, Parachute Regiment

15th (Scottish) Battalion, Parachute Regiment



Territorial Army Units dedicated to home defence (All structured as Home Defence Infantry Battalions, including the Yeomanry)



Royal Wessex Yeomanry

Queen’s Own Mercian Yeomanry

Duke of Lancaster’s Yeomanry

2nd Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers

6th/7th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment

4th Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment (2nd Lancastrian Volunteers)

6th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

2nd Battalion, Wessex Regiment

6th (Somerset and Cornwall) Battalion, Light Infantry

2nd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers

3rd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers

2nd Battalion, Mercian Volunteers

7th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

3rd Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers

4th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales

3rd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers



There are the following Regional units in the British Orbat

1st – 11th Battalions, Ulster Defence Regiment

Gibraltar Regiment

Royal Hong Kong Regiment

Bermuda Regiment

Falklands Islands Defence Force (1 Coy)
I remember there was also a 19 Bde, units were based in colly.
 
#8
Interesting RHF as part of 3 Div were in task Force Foxtrot not Echo, correctly based out of Soest with the late Brigadier I McKay MC as Brigade Commander
 
#9
Sorry Bigpod some of that may need revising.

You have 6RRF as Home-Defence when in fact it was NATO tasked throughout the 80's.
 
#11
If this is "mid 1980" i.e. just before Exercixe crusader 80 then there are some errors and a big ommission.

Its 1st British Corps not 1st Army!

I donlt think 1 D&D were part of 5 Field Farce. They had 129 Dragon Field Battery as their affiliated battery and were a mech battalion that was part of 2 Armoured Division. (I was in 129)

I think 13/18th were part of 7FF not 8 FF and 5& 6 RA and 5 Queens joined 7 FF on mobilisation.

I have added the gunner orbat where I can remember.

Wonk-mog - 19 Inf Bde was only renamed from 7th Field Force in 1982 ish when the Task forces became Brigades.


bigpod said:
Can't vouch for it...

British Order of Battle – Mid 1980



In 1980 the British Army was still organised in the “Task Force” system. The idea was that each Division would have 2 “Task Forces”, which were essentially large brigades. Sufficient equipment had been ordered in the late 70’s to make sure that by the time of GDW’s Twilight War all BAOR Infantry would be Warrior equipped, and Saxon would be equipping all the TA BAOR roled battalions. Challenger was to supplement, not replace Chieftain.



The problem was one of manpower. By moving to 4 large Armoured Divisions (from 3 small Divisions), Britain could not keep the BAOR at full strength, as there were other operational tasks such as Northern Ireland, training etc. to do. The solution was to keep the Divisions at 50-67% strength, to be reinforced to full strength in time of war.



In 1982, this structure was abandoned for a 2.5 Armoured Division structure, with the majority of the forces in Germany. Two armoured divisions (1st and 4th) were the FEBA (Forward Edge of Battle Area) Divisions, while a reserve division (3rd) had only two brigades, 1 armoured, 1 mech, with another held in the UK. The 2nd Division became a TA centred Infantry Division.



British Army of the Rhine (1st British Army)


Berlin Field Force
Royal Hussars (1 Sqn, the remainder at the Land Warfare Centre)
1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards
2nd Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
1st Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers

1st Armoured Division
16th/5th Lancers (Recce)

TF A
14th/20th Hussars
2nd Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards
3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

TF B
1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards
1st Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

45 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
49 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
1 x RHA Bty Swingfire (D or M)

2nd Armoured Division
Queen’s Royal Irish Hussars (Recce)
TF C
The Life Guards
4th Royal Tank Regiment
2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards

TF D
5th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards
1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Duke of Edinburgh’s Regiment

27 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
40 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
C Bty RHA Swingfire (Incl CGS designate as BK)


3rd Armoured Division
15th/19th Hussars (Recce)

TF E
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
1st Battalion, Royal Highland Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters

TF F
3rd Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Black Watch

26 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
19 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
1 x RHA Bty Swingfire (D or M)


4th Armoured Division
4th/7th Dragoon Guards (Recce)

TF G
Queen’s Own Hussars
1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment
1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington’s Regiment

TF H
9th/12th Royal Lancers
1st Battalion, Royal Welsh Fusiliers

39 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
25 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
J Bty RHA Swingfire

5th Field Force
1st Battalion, Devon and Dorset Regiment
1st Battalion, Green Howards (deployed at Catterick, UK)
1st Battalion, King’s Own Scottish Borderers
7 Regt RHA 3 btys FH 70

MGRA
5 Hy Regt 3(?) btys M107
94 Locating Regiment
50 Msle Regt (Lance)
12 ADS Regt (Rapier)
22 Ad Regt (Rapier)

HQ, Northern Ireland

3 Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Scots Guards

8 Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment

39 Infantry Brigade
2nd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
2nd Battalion, Parachute Regiment

Overseas Forces

Belize Field Force
1st Battalion, Cheshire Regiment

Brunei Field Force
1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles
1st Battalion, 10th Gurkha Rifles

Cyprus Field Force
3rd Battalion, Light Infantry
1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment

Gibraltar Field Force
2nd Battalion, Light Infantry

Gurkha Field Force (Hong Kong)
1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment
1st Battalion, Queen’s Own Highlanders
2nd Battalion, 6th Gurkha Rifles
1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles
Salerno Company, 41 (Independent) Commando RM

United Kingdom Land Forces

6th Field Force (Strategic Reserve)
The Blues and Royals
1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales
1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment
3rd Battalion, Parachute Regiment
4 Fd Regt RA L118 Light Gun
(Blow pipe Btys from 32 GW Regt )

7th Field Force (Reinforces BAOR)
2nd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
1st Battalion, King’s Regiment
3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
47 Fd Regt L118 Light gun
(Swingfire and Blow pipe Btys from 32 GW Regt )

8th Field Force (Home Defence)
13/18 Royal Hussars (Recce)
17/21 Queen’s Royal Lancers (Tank)
1st Battalion, Light Infantry
2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers
2nd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets

3 Commando Brigade
40 Commando RM
42 Commando RM
45 Commando RM
29 Cdo Regt RA (Light gun)
148 NGS Cdo bty RA

Allied Mobile Force (Land)

1st Battalion, Prince of Wales’s Own Regiment
5 AMF bty RA
(Blow pipe tp from 32 GW Regt )


Unbrigaded Units (Reinforce BAOR formations in wartime)

Canturbury: 1st Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
Church Crookham: 1st Battalion, 2nd Gurkha Rifles
Dover: 3rd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
Edinburgh: 1st Battalion, Royal Scots and 1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders
Houndslow: 1st Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
London: 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards, 2nd Battalion, Scots Guards, 1st Battalion, Irish Guards and 1st Battalion, Welsh Guards
Oakington: 3rd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
Weeton: 1st Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment
?: Albuhera and Tiger Companies (Cadres of 4th Battalions of the Queen’s and Royal Anglian Regiments)

Topcliffe 1 RHA (5.5" gun/ FH 70)
Kirton on Lindsey 16 AD Regt RA

Territorial Army Units reinforcing BAOR in event of war (approximate at the moment, based on 1986 roles)

Royal Yeomanry (Recce for 5th Field Force)
Queen’s Own Yeomanry (Recce for 7th Field Force)
1st Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers
5th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
5th/8th Battalion, King’s Regiment (1st Lancastrian Volunteers)
4th Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment
5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Wessex Regiment (Rifle Volunteers) – UKMF
5th (Shropshire and Herefordshire) Battalion, Light Infantry
7th (Durham) Battalion, Light Infantry
1st Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
1st Battalion, Mercian Volunteers
5th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
6th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales
4th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers (North Irish Militia)
5th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers
3rd Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters
1st Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers
2nd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers
4th Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
4th (Yorkshire) Battalion, Parachute Regiment
10th (London) Battalion, Parachute Regiment
15th (Scottish) Battalion, Parachute Regiment

Territorial Army Units dedicated to home defence (All structured as Home Defence Infantry Battalions, including the Yeomanry)

Royal Wessex Yeomanry
Queen’s Own Mercian Yeomanry
Duke of Lancaster’s Yeomanry
2nd Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers
6th/7th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
4th Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment (2nd Lancastrian Volunteers)
6th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
2nd Battalion, Wessex Regiment
6th (Somerset and Cornwall) Battalion, Light Infantry
2nd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
3rd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
2nd Battalion, Mercian Volunteers
7th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
3rd Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers
4th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales
3rd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers

There are the following Regional units in the British Orbat

1st – 11th Battalions, Ulster Defence Regiment
Gibraltar Regiment
Royal Hong Kong Regiment
Bermuda Regiment
Falklands Islands Defence Force (1 Coy)
 
#12
Pteranadon said:
If this is "mid 1980" i.e. just before Exercixe crusader 80 then there are some errors and a big ommission.

Its 1st British Corps not 1st Army!

I donlt think 1 D&D were part of 5 Field Farce. They had 129 Dragon Field Battery as their affiliated battery and were a mech battalion that was part of 2 Armoured Division. (I was in 129)

I think 13/18th were part of 7FF not 8 FF and 5& 6 RA and 5 Queens joined 7 FF on mobilisation.

I have added the gunner orbat where I can remember.

Wonk-mog - 19 Inf Bde was only renamed from 7th Field Force in 1982 ish when the Task forces became Brigades.


bigpod said:
Can't vouch for it...

British Order of Battle – Mid 1980



In 1980 the British Army was still organised in the “Task Force” system. The idea was that each Division would have 2 “Task Forces”, which were essentially large brigades. Sufficient equipment had been ordered in the late 70’s to make sure that by the time of GDW’s Twilight War all BAOR Infantry would be Warrior equipped, and Saxon would be equipping all the TA BAOR roled battalions. Challenger was to supplement, not replace Chieftain.



The problem was one of manpower. By moving to 4 large Armoured Divisions (from 3 small Divisions), Britain could not keep the BAOR at full strength, as there were other operational tasks such as Northern Ireland, training etc. to do. The solution was to keep the Divisions at 50-67% strength, to be reinforced to full strength in time of war.



In 1982, this structure was abandoned for a 2.5 Armoured Division structure, with the majority of the forces in Germany. Two armoured divisions (1st and 4th) were the FEBA (Forward Edge of Battle Area) Divisions, while a reserve division (3rd) had only two brigades, 1 armoured, 1 mech, with another held in the UK. The 2nd Division became a TA centred Infantry Division.



British Army of the Rhine (1st British Army)


Berlin Field Force
Royal Hussars (1 Sqn, the remainder at the Land Warfare Centre)
1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards
2nd Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
1st Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers

1st Armoured Division
16th/5th Lancers (Recce)

TF A
14th/20th Hussars
2nd Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards
3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers

TF B
1st The Queen’s Dragoon Guards
1st Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment

45 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
49 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
1 x RHA Bty Swingfire (D or M)

2nd Armoured Division
Queen’s Royal Irish Hussars (Recce)
TF C
The Life Guards
4th Royal Tank Regiment
2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards

TF D
5th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards
1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Duke of Edinburgh’s Regiment

27 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
40 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
C Bty RHA Swingfire (Incl CGS designate as BK)


3rd Armoured Division
15th/19th Hussars (Recce)

TF E
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
1st Battalion, Royal Highland Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters

TF F
3rd Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Black Watch

26 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
19 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
1 x RHA Bty Swingfire (D or M)


4th Armoured Division
4th/7th Dragoon Guards (Recce)

TF G
Queen’s Own Hussars
1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment
1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington’s Regiment

TF H
9th/12th Royal Lancers
1st Battalion, Royal Welsh Fusiliers

39 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
25 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
J Bty RHA Swingfire

5th Field Force
1st Battalion, Devon and Dorset Regiment
1st Battalion, Green Howards (deployed at Catterick, UK)
1st Battalion, King’s Own Scottish Borderers
7 Regt RHA 3 btys FH 70

MGRA
5 Hy Regt 3(?) btys M107
94 Locating Regiment
50 Msle Regt (Lance)
12 ADS Regt (Rapier)
22 Ad Regt (Rapier)

HQ, Northern Ireland

3 Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Scots Guards

8 Infantry Brigade
1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment

39 Infantry Brigade
2nd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
2nd Battalion, Parachute Regiment

Overseas Forces

Belize Field Force
1st Battalion, Cheshire Regiment

Brunei Field Force
1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles
1st Battalion, 10th Gurkha Rifles

Cyprus Field Force
3rd Battalion, Light Infantry
1st Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment

Gibraltar Field Force
2nd Battalion, Light Infantry

Gurkha Field Force (Hong Kong)
1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment
1st Battalion, Queen’s Own Highlanders
2nd Battalion, 6th Gurkha Rifles
1st Battalion, 7th Gurkha Rifles
Salerno Company, 41 (Independent) Commando RM

United Kingdom Land Forces

6th Field Force (Strategic Reserve)
The Blues and Royals
1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales
1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment
3rd Battalion, Parachute Regiment
4 Fd Regt RA L118 Light Gun
(Blow pipe Btys from 32 GW Regt )

7th Field Force (Reinforces BAOR)
2nd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
1st Battalion, King’s Regiment
3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
47 Fd Regt L118 Light gun
(Swingfire and Blow pipe Btys from 32 GW Regt )

8th Field Force (Home Defence)
13/18 Royal Hussars (Recce)
17/21 Queen’s Royal Lancers (Tank)
1st Battalion, Light Infantry
2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers
2nd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets

3 Commando Brigade
40 Commando RM
42 Commando RM
45 Commando RM
29 Cdo Regt RA (Light gun)
148 NGS Cdo bty RA

Allied Mobile Force (Land)

1st Battalion, Prince of Wales’s Own Regiment
5 AMF bty RA
(Blow pipe tp from 32 GW Regt )


Unbrigaded Units (Reinforce BAOR formations in wartime)

Canturbury: 1st Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
Church Crookham: 1st Battalion, 2nd Gurkha Rifles
Dover: 3rd Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
Edinburgh: 1st Battalion, Royal Scots and 1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders
Houndslow: 1st Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
London: 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards, 2nd Battalion, Scots Guards, 1st Battalion, Irish Guards and 1st Battalion, Welsh Guards
Oakington: 3rd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
Weeton: 1st Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment
?: Albuhera and Tiger Companies (Cadres of 4th Battalions of the Queen’s and Royal Anglian Regiments)

Topcliffe 1 RHA (5.5" gun/ FH 70)
Kirton on Lindsey 16 AD Regt RA

Territorial Army Units reinforcing BAOR in event of war (approximate at the moment, based on 1986 roles)

Royal Yeomanry (Recce for 5th Field Force)
Queen’s Own Yeomanry (Recce for 7th Field Force)
1st Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers
5th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
5th/8th Battalion, King’s Regiment (1st Lancastrian Volunteers)
4th Battalion, King’s Own Royal Border Regiment
5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Wessex Regiment (Rifle Volunteers) – UKMF
5th (Shropshire and Herefordshire) Battalion, Light Infantry
7th (Durham) Battalion, Light Infantry
1st Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
1st Battalion, Mercian Volunteers
5th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
6th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales
4th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers (North Irish Militia)
5th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers
3rd Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters
1st Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers
2nd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers
4th Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
4th (Yorkshire) Battalion, Parachute Regiment
10th (London) Battalion, Parachute Regiment
15th (Scottish) Battalion, Parachute Regiment

Territorial Army Units dedicated to home defence (All structured as Home Defence Infantry Battalions, including the Yeomanry)

Royal Wessex Yeomanry
Queen’s Own Mercian Yeomanry
Duke of Lancaster’s Yeomanry
2nd Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers
6th/7th Battalion, Queen’s Regiment
4th Battalion, Queen’s Lancashire Regiment (2nd Lancastrian Volunteers)
6th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
2nd Battalion, Wessex Regiment
6th (Somerset and Cornwall) Battalion, Light Infantry
2nd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
3rd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
2nd Battalion, Mercian Volunteers
7th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
3rd Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers
4th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales
3rd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers

There are the following Regional units in the British Orbat

1st – 11th Battalions, Ulster Defence Regiment
Gibraltar Regiment
Royal Hong Kong Regiment
Bermuda Regiment
Falklands Islands Defence Force (1 Coy)
C Bty RHA also supported TF C. I was in A Troop until 1978 and we supported 4 RTR. We had 6 Troops (5 x FV438 and one x Striker), but I think it all changed after I left.
 
#13
I'd exercise extreme caution with the above list- it was designed for an Alternate history wargame scenario (where it refers to GDW's Twilight War scenario, a story & game about as if the Cold War had gone on into the '90s and turned Hot), and thus may not be entirely factual...
 
#14
Pteranadon said:
If this is "mid 1980" i.e. just before Exercixe crusader 80 then there are some errors and a big ommission.

Its 1st British Corps not 1st Army!

I donlt think 1 D&D were part of 5 Field Farce. They had 129 Dragon Field Battery as their affiliated battery and were a mech battalion that was part of 2 Armoured Division. (I was in 129)

I think 13/18th were part of 7FF not 8 FF and 5& 6 RA and 5 Queens joined 7 FF on mobilisation.

I have added the gunner orbat where I can remember.

Wonk-mog - 19 Inf Bde was only renamed from 7th Field Force in 1982 ish when the Task forces became Brigades.


bigpod said:
Can't vouch for it...

British Order of Battle – Mid 1980



In 1980 the British Army was still organised in the “Task Force” system. The idea was that each Division would have 2 “Task Forces”, which were essentially large brigades. Sufficient equipment had been ordered in the late 70’s to make sure that by the time of GDW’s Twilight War all BAOR Infantry would be Warrior equipped, and Saxon would be equipping all the TA BAOR roled battalions. Challenger was to supplement, not replace Chieftain.



The problem was one of manpower. By moving to 4 large Armoured Divisions (from 3 small Divisions), Britain could not keep the BAOR at full strength, as there were other operational tasks such as Northern Ireland, training etc. to do. The solution was to keep the Divisions at 50-67% strength, to be reinforced to full strength in time of war.



In 1982, this structure was abandoned for a 2.5 Armoured Division structure, with the majority of the forces in Germany. Two armoured divisions (1st and 4th) were the FEBA (Forward Edge of Battle Area) Divisions, while a reserve division (3rd) had only two brigades, 1 armoured, 1 mech, with another held in the UK. The 2nd Division became a TA centred Infantry Division.



British Army of the Rhine (1st British Army)

3rd Armoured Division
15th/19th Hussars (Recce)

TF E
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
1st Battalion, Royal Highland Fusiliers
1st Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters

TF F
3rd Royal Tank Regiment
1st Battalion, Black Watch

26 Fd Regt RA 2 x M109 bty / 1 x 110 bty
19 Fd Regt RA 4 x Abbot Bty + 1 x Blowpipe Bty
1 x RHA Bty Swingfire (D or M)
My bold. I had noticed the total ommission of arty :evil:

As for 19 Fd RA (as it was then), it consisted of 3 no. Abbott btys of 8 no. guns plus a HQ bty and 111 Drgaon Bty with Blowpipe.

At first all eight guns in the btys were crewed, but then they were put into Care and Pres' to be manned by the TA, with the remaining six guns were crewed by regs.
 

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Recce19 said:
My bold. I had noticed the total ommission of arty :evil:

As for 19 Fd RA (as it was then), it consisted of 3 no. Abbott btys of 8 no. guns plus a HQ bty and 111 Drgaon Bty with Blowpipe.

At first all eight guns in the btys were crewed, but then they were put into Care and Pres' to be manned by the TA, with the remaining six guns were crewed by regs.
J Bty 3 RHA usually provided Swingfire cover for 15/19H BG IIRC.

When the Task Forces reverted to Brigades, TFE became 33 Armd Bde IIRC.

When 2 Armd Div "disbanded" (31 Dec 82), ISTR 1 Armd Div became three brigades. 7 Armd Wksp provided REME cover for two brigades; 12 Armd Wksp (ex 2 Armd Div) was halved in size and supported the third 1 Armd Div brigade but I cannot for the life of me remember which brigade that was.
 
#16
One of the UK based FFs was assigned to COMLANJUT, it had 2 TA inf bns in addition to the regs, an armd regt, an FH70 regt and picked up the support regt from Larkhill.

In mid(ish) 1980 the M109 expansion program got under way starting with re-equipping all 3 Abbot btys of 26 Regt with 8 M109 each. This released Abbots to increase other btys to 8 guns, some other Abbot btys were also requipped and moved across to the M109 regt in their division. Each of the 4 armd divs had a RHA bty with 6 troops of Swingfire (438 and one with Striker). I think these were accomodated with the M109 regt in each div, the other regt had the Blowpipe bty. The one with 26 Regt was M Bty. There were 24 M107 to play with, maybe, somewhere around this time the 2 regts with M107 also got a Loc bty each. 19 Fd Regt only ever had 3 btys Abbot, not 4. It was about this time that the two AD regts went up to 4 btys (2 tracked, 2 towed) each.
 
#18
bigpod said:
Can't vouch for it...

British Order of Battle – Mid 1980



In 1980 the British Army was still organised in the “Task Force” system. The idea was that each Division would have 2 “Task Forces”, which were essentially large brigades. Sufficient equipment had been ordered in the late 70’s to make sure that by the time of GDW’s Twilight War all BAOR Infantry would be Warrior equipped, and Saxon would be equipping all the TA BAOR roled battalions. Challenger was to supplement, not replace Chieftain.
Bigpod,

Your ORBAT is one that is part of one of those role playing games. It deals with a fictional WWIII, called the Twilight war. This Orbat, while based on reality is part of that game.

Cheers,

Kaye
 
#19
Petardier said:
One of the UK based FFs was assigned to COMLANJUT, it had 2 TA inf bns in addition to the regs, an armd regt, an FH70 regt and picked up the support regt from Larkhill.

In mid(ish) 1980 the M109 expansion program got under way starting with re-equipping all 3 Abbot btys of 26 Regt with 8 M109 each. This released Abbots to increase other btys to 8 guns, some other Abbot btys were also requipped and moved across to the M109 regt in their division. Each of the 4 armd divs had a RHA bty with 6 troops of Swingfire (438 and one with Striker). I think these were accomodated with the M109 regt in each div, the other regt had the Blowpipe bty. The one with 26 Regt was M Bty. There were 24 M107 to play with, maybe, somewhere around this time the 2 regts with M107 also got a Loc bty each. 19 Fd Regt only ever had 3 btys Abbot, not 4. It was about this time that the two AD regts went up to 4 btys (2 tracked, 2 towed) each.
In 1980 all 24 M107s were from 5 Heavy Regioment in Hildeseheim.

You have it the wrong way around with the Swingfire and Blowpipe batteries. The M109 Regiments had the Blowpipe Battery attached and the abbots the swingfire and striker.

1983 3RHA was reformed and Swingfire went to the RAC. 25 Fd Regiment were disbanded.

I can't remember when artillery batteries were upgunned to eight Abbots, if they ever were. I remember the spare OP Fv432 and ferret for the WMR Op Party, but I can't recall spare Abbots lying around. I should have done because they would have needed detachements for ex active edge and ORTs, which would have been a pain. By 1987 I was working in a Div Arty Ops and I ought to recall somehtign about "G" and H subs and the differences between peacetime and wartime establishments and moivement tables.

Were there the detatchements to maintain them? Who had the guns on charge?

Maybe I am having a senior moment.
 
#20
Be interested in what the real date of that list was, as we were Close Recce for the Life Guards, after the Blues and Royals moved, so i think that list is after 81, as the 16/5th werent in Germany then, so couldnt be down on BAOR strength.

So somewhere dates are wrong on that list. I also thought we were still Battlegroups rather than Task Forces, and certainly we never worked with Guards Infantry in ours.

oh just seen Kayes post, so i understand.
 

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