Banter

Discussion in 'Army Reserve' started by DarkBlueLoggie, Sep 10, 2009.

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  1. I was just reading back through some of my posts since I joined Arrse a few years back. I now realise that in some of my responses I was over-sensitive to some of the banter that had been posted. I've also noticed that Reservists (of which I am one) can be wound-up quite easily by some of the comments from Regulars.

    I think a change my change in perception has come as a result of 6 months spent mobilised on Herrick where the level of banter sometimes reached Olympic standards. Have other Reservists found that after mobilisation they appreciate some of the banter more? Is there a difference between those that have mobilised as part of a formed unit and those that have been individual augmentees? Or am I talking out my arrse?
     
  2. Is the banter objected to of the form "all STABs are useless c*nts and TACs are just subsidised drinking clubs. I know 'cause I wuz an PSI"? I still object to that and, as you have (hopefully) demonstrated on Herrick, and I hopefully did on Telic and Oculus, it is simply not true.

    Is it that military banter is a bit more pointed and nasty than would be tolerated by civvy (including HMG) HR departments? This is a more valid point - the military is being forced to change. Much of the banter that went on when I originally joined up is now banned - racist, sexist etc. It persists but it is causing issues - every penny spent on compensation at tribunal is money not available for kit or training. We, the volunteer reservists, are probably more sensitive to it and can help our regular colleagues recognise when they are going too far.

    On the other hand, somebody who calls me a "f*cking fat geriatric midget" is being rude but (reasonably) accurate. And I am more likely to get that comment with the military then in civilian work - whether for the government or commerce. You put up with it.
     
  3. What I found is that much of the banter is meant in jest, and a negative reaction often causes more 'banter'. Taking it as it is meant (in jest) and giving as good as you get I found to be a sound policy!

    funnily enough never heard anything racist or homophobic, and with 60% females in the unit I was attached to the sexist jokes flew both ways! That leaves a hell of a lot of banter that is a whole lot more robust than you'd find in civvy street, and in many ways is all the better for it.
     
  4. Idrach and DBL,

    Great replies.

    But man the fcuk up will you!!!! :D :D

    Idrach, well said, seriously. :clap: :salut:
     
  5. MTFU - used so often but yet another thing I can't use on civvy street!!
     
  6. I was an "auld" returner and laff'd my breeks off at a biff lad having his 58 pattern water bottle rugby kicked into the cudds...

    The smile froze on my face when the "auld" school RSM - i remembered him from way back when he was an NCO - gripped the DS (also "auld" school and a returner like me) and corrected him.

    Shock to us both TBH.

    It's both good and bad... but.

    FFS - call a spade a spade, call a lazy dog a lazy dog etc...
     
  7. Is it that military banter is a bit more pointed and nasty

    Nail on head. The STAB thing bothered me for the first couple of days in recruit cadre (1986) until I heard the regular DS having a good go at another regular Bn of the same Div.

    The army is a competitive and elitist organisation (for better or worse) and everyone is always better than everyone else.

    Last year I heard an ex-reg JCB driver who had spent 3 years in the inf and reached the dizzy heights of, er, private, say he didn't think much of the TA because 'he had seen them standing at bus stops'. When the degree of analysis reaches that level, you can only laugh.

    I also had the pleasure of meeting someone I remembered as a vociferous critic of the TA when a regular SNCO, who had since left the army and...you guessed it...

    My experience has been that people who have served as PSIs or on ops alongside the TA tend to be more positive about it. The more of us go on ops and do a decent job as most of us do, the better, and the credibility will continue to go up a few notches. But I doubt it will ever go away completely, for the reasons stated above.

    S
     
  8. I had the good fortune to be PSI of 583 EOD SQN RE (V) for a while when the unit was based in Brighton. The Sqn had some of the best guys I ever served with in the 22 years of my service. But they are still a bunch of slimy TA bast ards! :D
     
  9. Only you and their mothers could love them!!!

    Says it all :D :worship:
     
  10. S[/quote]

    I had the good fortune to be PSI of 583 EOD SQN RE (V) for a while when the unit was based in Brighton. The Sqn had some of the best guys I ever served with in the 22 years of my service. But they are still a bunch of slimy TA bast ards! :D[/quote]

    Like the rest of RE (V)...no, wait, I forgot, I'm RE(V) now!

    Is eodmatt TA now, or thinking about it then?
     
  11. I had the good fortune to be PSI of 583 EOD SQN RE (V) for a while when the unit was based in Brighton. The Sqn had some of the best guys I ever served with in the 22 years of my service. But they are still a bunch of slimy TA bast ards! :D[/quote]

    Like the rest of RE (V)...no, wait, I forgot, I'm RE(V) now!

    Is eodmatt TA now, or thinking about it then?[/quote]

    There was a time when I would have joined but my constant overseas travel meant that I would not have been able to put in the minimum attendance. Pity. Now I am a bit long in the tooth.
     
  12. Rejoiners up to 54 now ... (okay, 9 months before 55 to be precise.) Does that help? I'm sure your skill set is required (especially if we are going to magic these 200 extra EOD specialists to fulfil Gordon's promises).
     
  13. Nice try but I was 60 years young in April last. Otherwise I would.
     
  14. Hahahahaha :D

    I was sitting back hoping for that kind of reply - softly softly catchee monkey!!

    Nice one :D

    See lads?? Never be caught out by a Countdown Watcher....

    They're as foxy as fox pissh...
     
  15. Oi, fu ck off and dont be disrespectfull to your elders :lol: