Ballymurphy Massacre Anniversary

[Dave-the-rave]

Gaddafi was giving them plenty. They were not short of hardware or money. I'd think the Eksund incident helped pave the road to peace talks.

 

[ches]

Gaddafi was giving them plenty. They were not short of hardware or money. I'd think the Eksund incident helped pave the road to peace talks.

The end of Libyan support predates the Major strategy though?
Rather than the Eksund getting lifted it was the incidents such as Warrington & young gets on the mainland getting spread across a town high street that didn't do them any favours over in the US. I'd suggest the impetus towards peace talks came from PIRA after that & the criticism they were getting across the globe. While there were many atrocities much worse than Warrington & the like, there was something in that & the other incidents around that time that meant the boyos had fcuked themselves. Couple that with the widespread penetration of the organisation by various touts & agents meant their home grown efforts, by & large, weren't working.

 

[Tytus_Barnowl]

Gaddafi was also a great boost to Thatcher. Her attitude against terrorism to his embracing it. Furthermore he publically offered food aid for the miners on strike via Arthur Scargill.

 

[ExREME..TECH]

Gaddafi was giving them plenty. They were not short of hardware or money. I'd think the Eksund incident helped pave the road to peace talks.

He wasn't until the USA bombed his family from the UK

 

[Dave-the-rave]

The end of Libyan support predates the Major strategy though?
Rather than the Eksund getting lifted it was the incidents such as Warrington & young gets on the mainland getting spread across a town high street that didn't do them any favours over in the US. I'd suggest the impetus towards peace talks came from PIRA after that & the criticism they were getting across the globe. While there were many atrocities much worse than Warrington & the like, there was something in that & the other incidents around that time that meant the boyos had fcuked themselves. Couple that with the widespread penetration of the organisation by various touts & agents meant their home grown efforts, by & large, weren't working.

Never the less the amount of hardware and money found on the Eksand late eighties is pretty good evidence Gaddafi was happy to not only supply them but give them money as well. If the Captains claims were true that the Eksand wasn't the first boat containing such a cargo, then PIRA were still in business. They found around a dozen SAM's on the Eksand.

Lets all ignore the implications of that and pretend PIRA were defeated. They were riddled with informers yes but a few dedicated well armed men can do a lot of damage. Lets face it a few dedicated poorly armed men caused a lot of damage in the early days, early seventies.

I believe the distasteful aspects of the Belfast agreement eg release from prison, were fundamental to the success of the peace talks. on both sides.

Gaddafi was one weird dude. Eksand skipper dies.

 

[ugly]

Lets all ignore the implications of that and pretend PIRA were defeated.

They hadn't done what Saint Gerry had declared to win the war through the ballot box and the armalite. They failed, the world had moved on and they were no longer acceptable. The huge inroads made by supergrass trials in the 80's showed that they were just criminals and nothing more.

 

[Dave-the-rave]

They hadn't done what Saint Gerry had declared to win the war through the ballot box and the armalite. They failed, the world had moved on and they were no longer acceptable. The huge inroads made by supergrass trials in the 80's showed that they were just criminals and nothing more.

That's great.

 

[AfghanAndy]

tbf GFA had majors support and his government did a lot of the legwork and letting scum out of jail in exchange for reducing to the annual toll of corpses to single figures and Ni becoming almost normal but we could have always carried on with the plan of having martin and gerry dead on a pile of dead terrorists which unfortunately was never going to happen.

Some on here claim it was all down to the EU.

 

[jimmys_best_mate]

Some on here claim it was all down to the EU.

No they don't...

 

[rickshaw-major]

No they don't...

We should have passed an Order in Council and head jobbed the rebels in 1972. We knew who they were.

 

[Goldbricker]

The supply of money was drying up too, when the USA had the first terrorist attack in history on 11/09.

The USA had terrorist attacks long before 9-11

FALN Puerto Rican Terrs responsible for several bombings in NYC
Los Macheteros
Croats in the 70's in NYC made several bombing attacks

And that doesnt count RW & LW terrs from the KKK to the Weathermen


Yes you poor poor dears only the UK was Ever a target

 

[rickshaw-major]

The USA had terrorist attacks long before 9-11

FALN Puerto Rican Terrs responsible for several bombings in NYC
Los Macheteros
Croats in the 70's in NYC made several bombing attacks

And that doesnt count RW & LW terrs from the KKK to the Weathermen


Yes you poor poor dears only the UK was Ever a target

But not an attack on the Nation State.

Do be brief FFS.

 

[DrStealth]

The USA had terrorist attacks long before 9-11

FALN Puerto Rican Terrs responsible for several bombings in NYC
Los Macheteros
Croats in the 70's in NYC made several bombing attacks

And that doesnt count RW & LW terrs from the KKK to the Weathermen


Yes you poor poor dears only the UK was Ever a target

and how many Brit citizens gave money? support? and sent over arms and ammo to these terrs in the US?
and did anyone within the British Gov ever turn a blind eye to it for decades? or in fact personally help with fund-raising whilst in office?


............thats a why.

 

[ugly]

Tim McVeigh