The point is that the Bevan Boys were conscripted.Oneshot said:So where are the badges for everyone else who contributed to the effort but not on the front line? The women who held the country together as an example?
Whilst i don't question the contribution the boys made, so did a lot of others at home!
I quite agree - long overdue. Is there a memorial? If someone can put up memorials to animals and to a load of hats and coats in London then there must be one for the conscript miners?heythrop said:Surely the Bevin Boys must be entitled to the Defence Medal ?
I find it astounding if they are not.
I would put good money on your grandfather being far better off than the average person, doing a job he was trained for in a comfortable environment. Rather different from being sent to work in a coalmine when you have no previous experience of the environment! Not detracting from the value of his work, but he wasn't forced to do it was he?4(T) said:Sounds like a thirty-year-late blairite scam to round up a few more "working class" votes.
As someone has mentioned - the whole country was mobilised and millions of people in reality had little choice about where they worked. What about all those in "reserved occupations" who didn't get anything by way of recognition. E.g. my old grandad got no award for being a key engineer in the Merlin engine programme - and just how important did that turn out to be?!
Dilfor is that a rhetorical question for the benefit of 4(T)?Dilfor said:If you were in a 'reserved occupation' (eg farmer) did that mean (a) you couldn't undertake military service or (b) you didn't have to undertake military service?
There was no victory medal for WW2. I think the medal you refer to is the War Medal, usually seen at the end of the bar with all the Campaign Stars. The war medal was issued to all those serving in the armed forces for 30 days between 3/9/39 and 4/9/45. The only Police wearing both the Defence and War medal were probably former servicemen/women who then went into the Police after their military service.heythrop said:Will somebody who knows about medals please clarify something for me.
For service in WW2 I believe members of the Police received the Victory Medal as well as the Defence Medal.
Firemen received just the Defence Medal I think.
Why did they not receive the Victory Medal just as the police did. In my opinion a lot of those firemen deserved the George Cross, not just a Defence Medal, but the wearers will know what their medal is worth.
And of course, why did the conscripted Bevin Boys not receive the Defence Medal when, if I am correct it was available to Fire Watchers, First Aid Workers, and a host of others.
My grandad tried to join twice, whilst in a reserved occupation as an apprentice draughtsman. First time, he went with two friends who joined the Navy. They went, he didn't and one of them didn't come home. The second attempt was shortly after the Battle of Britain. A rumour went round the office that apprentices could join as aircrew, as the RAF were so desperate that they'd over look the reserved occupation. Five or six went down, and were promptly marched back to the office by the recruiting sergeant and given a bo llocking by their boss.Bat_Crab said:I'll answer anyway! Being in a reserved occupation meant that you weren't considered for compulsory military service. It did not stop you from volunteering for service. Some civil servants, however, may have been persuaded not to volunteer or found their applications turned down in order to prevent a haemorraging of essential staff to the Armed Forces.