Baby killer - Is this justice?

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  1. BBC News

    Now I know by today's standards that "a minimum of 22 years in prison" is a long sentence, most murderers only getting around a minimum of 16 but surely in this case 22 is simply not enough.

    Take a moment to envision the crime he committed, he held his 16 month daughter (who by the way, already had broken limbs from previous beatings that he had given her) over his knee and exerted so much pressure that he snapped her spine! An injury that she took hours to die from. I actually feel nauseous just thinking about. Since committing the crime he has shown no remorse, nil, zilch, zero.

    Now a moment to consider the punishment. A roof over his head, 3 squares a day, central heating, warm showers, TV, DVD's, library, free phone calls etc for the next 22 years, all he has to do is hope the screws keep him in solitary to stop him being given the beating that he so richly deserves.

    Now a moment to consider us the tax payer. It costs £77 a night to keep a male prisoner in a medium security prison, I can't find figures on how much it costs to keep in solitary confinement in a high security prison but working on those figures:
    £77 x 365.25 = £28124.25
    £28124.25 x 22 = £618733.50.
    Add on costs of psychiatrists, medical care, the rise in inflation and on release the costs of the probation service giving him a new identity and protection. It's going to cost the tax payer in a region of a cool million to carry out the sentence handed down to this animal.

    This is the case of a banged to rights child killer who has shown no remorse, surely the only just punishment is Capital Punishment.
  2. Cue Sven.
  3. My maths say let him swing
  4. My daughers just a little older than the one he's killed (no, no you can't have photo's).

    I couldn't imagine doing that to someone that small and that new to the world, it's horrible to think that that kids only memories in life will be of pain suffering and ultimately a long a painful death.

    The fcuker should be tortured to near death every single day for the remainder of his life and if there is a hell he should get bummed by an elephant for eternity.

    22 years, f*ck off.
  5. i'd be surpised if he last 22months, let alone years
    there'll be an instant bounty on him
    and if he's not in solitary
    then it'll be 22days

    bayoneting babies in basra, fine
    but to kill your own
    cnut you are!
  6. I would imagine thats 22 years on a nonce wing for him then.

    22 years of knowing that if a proper con/s gets to him he is going to get some real justice.

    Couldnt happen to a nicer fella.
  7. You forgot about the Playstations.

    IIRC high security prison costs £33k per year per inmate in the UK and about half that in the USA. That's based on 'double occupancy'. Lifers automatically get their own cell so they cost considerably more.

    Interestingly, sending someone to prison costs almost exactly the same as sending them to Eton.

    In the absence of capital punishment, he should be in prison until he dies. Doesn't matter how much it costs.

    Edited to add:-

    Just Googled the name of the judge - Mrs Justice Cox:-

    1998 - Appointed to the International Labour Organisation

    1999 - Chaired the Bar Council Sex Discrimination Committee

    1999 - Chaired the Bar Council Equal Opportunities Committee

    2002 - Appointed a High Court Judge

    2002 - Receives 'Lifetime Achievement Award' from Liberty for "her commitment to the protection of equality and human rights - in particular her achievements in securing rights for transsexual people"

    2004 - Chaired the government's 'Equal Treatment Advisory Committee' that drafted new guidelines on how judges are to avoid causing offence to minorities in court. Words such as 'black', 'businessman' and 'husband and wife' are now unwords in court.

    2007 - Awarded £50k damages against the police. Award later halved by the appeal court.

    2007 - Freed a bisexual, serial child molester from prison after he had served 8 weeks.

    2008 - Told a SAS soldier convicted of murdering an 18 year old nurse that she would have sent him down for 30 years had his crime not been committed before a recent change in the law.

    Are you thinking what I'm thinking

  8. Yet I still find myself wanting to hammer 9" nails through the top of his knee's... amongst other things.
  9. I think we need to take a look at this dudes ideas about running a prison

    You probably know him as “America’s Toughest Sheriff,” a name given to him years ago by the media. It’s a name he certainly has earned as head of the nation’s third largest Sheriff’s Office which employs over 3000 people. But even before he became Sheriff in 1993, Joe Arpaio was one tough lawman. After serving in the U.S. Army from 1950 to 1953, and as a Washington, D.C., and Las Vegas, NV, police officer for almost five years, Arpaio went on to build a federal law enforcement career and a reputation for fighting crime and drug trafficking around the world.
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    In 1992 Arpaio successfully campaigned to become the Sheriff of Maricopa County. Since then he has been reelected to an unprecedented four 4-year terms. During his tenure as Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arpaio has consistently earned extraordinarily high public approval ratings.
    With over four decades experience in law enforcement, Arpaio knows what the public wants, “The public is my boss,” he says, “so I serve the public.” He has served them well by establishing several unique programs.
    Arpaio has over 10,000 inmates in his jail system. [b]In August, 1993, he started the nation’s largest Tent City for convicted inmates. Two thousand convicted men and women serve their sentences in a canvas incarceration compound.[/b] It is a remarkable success story that has attracted the attention of government officials, presidential candidates, and media worldwide.
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    Also impressive are the Sheriff’s get tough policies. For example, [b]he banned smoking, coffee, movies, pornographic magazines, and unrestricted TV in all jails. He has the cheapest meals in the U.S. too. The average meal costs about 15 cents, and inmates are fed only twice daily, to cut the labor costs of meal delivery. He even stopped serving them salt and pepper to save tax payers $20,000 a year.[/b]
    [b]Another program Arpaio is very wellknown for is the pink under shorts he makes all inmates wear. Years ago, when the Sheriff learned that inmates were stealing jailhouse white boxers, Arpaio had all inmate underwear dyed pink for better inventory control. The same is true for the Sheriff’s handcuffs. When they started disappearing, he ordered pink handcuffs as a replacement. And later, when the Sheriff learned the calming, psychological effects of the color pink—sheets, towels, socks— everything inmates wear, except for the old-fashioned black and white striped uniform, were dyed pink.[/b]
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    As chief law enforcement officer for the county, Arpaio continues to reduce crime with hard-hitting enforcement methods. His deputies and detectives have solved several high-profile murder cases, including nine child murders. The posse, whose ranks have increased to 3,000 members under Arpaio, is the nation’s largest volunteer posse. Posse men and women help in search and rescue and other traditional police work as well as in special operations like rounding up deadbeat parents, fighting prostitution, patrolling malls during holidays, and investigating animal cruelty complaints. The posse’s contributions are invaluable and essentially free to taxpayers.
    No wonder Sheriff Arpaio has been profiled in over 2,000 U.S. and foreign newspapers, magazines, and TV news programs. His leadership and the excellent work of his staff have catapulted the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office into the ranks of elite law enforcement agencies.
    On a personal note, Sheriff Arpaio and his wife Ava have been married for over 48 years and have two children, both residing in the Phoenix area. The Arpaios have four grandchildren.
    Arpaio looks forward to many more years as Sheriff of Maricopa County.

  10. Still more happy with torture for child killers/rapists etc.

    POGs - I'd love to see things like that happen in UK Jails but some soft t0sser in power would complain about it breaching their ooman rights. :roll:
  11. The childs mother walked FFS
  12. Stupid c*nt. He should have got rid of the body.
  13. To see him swing from the gallows £Priceless.
    For everything else theres Mastercard.

  14. It is possible, of ocurse, that the baby was crying and refused to stop when asked.
  15. I knew I should have posted it in the slightly more serious forum of Current Affairs, News and Analysis :roll: