B*****y Cyclists

Dr Death

Old-Salt
Those that ride without a bone dome should be fined & banned from the road.
Hitting any part of the head om hard tarmac will hurt & might cause brain damage or worse death.
Totalling irresponsible not to be protected & all should have to have insurance too.
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
It's a bit of an odd notion that there's only one right type of bike to ride, one set of gear to wear, and everyone else doing differently is doing it wrong.
I think its down to attitude and manners, a couple of my younger friend do time trials and race but they tend to avoid groups otherwise, I used to enter time trials as a youngster to improve my health
but I never really enjoyed it when cycling with large groups, and the loud one did stupid things and got others involved, things that person would never do on there own
same with motorcycling,
I dont ride a high end road bike ( gave mine away) because I am very old, a bit overweight, and have one useless leg ( its in good company)
ergo the upright bike is ideal, my nice neighbour rides an MTB thingy but always on his own, he gets to all sorts of amazing places, sometimes I ride out with him, he is very pleasant and laid back, and avoids risks
much the same with cars, I know two people with AUDIs, one is the stereotypical Alpha male full of Aggression and always getting stressed and shouting at people, the other one is a G.P. very professional and a smooth driver
 
Those that ride without a bone dome should be fined & banned from the road.
Hitting any part of the head om hard tarmac will hurt & might cause brain damage or worse death.
Totalling irresponsible not to be protected & all should have to have insurance too.
Since the current rules are barely enforced (how often do you see cyclists go through red lights?) how could any new rules be enforced? In particular checking on mandatory insurance.
Personally I would like to see more traffic officers on the roads cracking down on poor driving from all road users, not just setting up speed safety cameras and patting themselves on the back about how many motorists they've nicked.
 

Niamac

GCM
Those that ride without a bone dome should be fined & banned from the road.
Wouldn't like to be the person trying that line with the Queen.

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Unpossible! Cyclists always use the cycle lanes which were set up, at vast expense, to cater to their needs.
You know that they don’t.
Some of the expensive cycle lanes aren’t used because they are crap, dangerous, or both.
Some cyclists don’t use them because they are not good people. Kind of like the car drivers who park in cycle lanes or otherwise drive like a see-you-next-Tuesday.
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An example of cyclists being dummies: I (on my bike) pulled onto a road some distance in front of a pair of Lycra-clad roadies on their super-duper steads, but apparently not far enough as they caught up before I got up to speed and overtook on a blind bend (I’d presumed that they would slow down for it) and got a huffy “really?” from the leader. What amused me is that I, on my cheap hybrid thing with panniers and my baggy clothing, kept up with them for the next couple of miles and got to watch them come within a yard of being squashed when they rode out of a T-junction without looking.

For balance, the last time I was out in my car, I spotted a police car on blues approaching from behind, so I slowed down and pulled in to the side so they could pass on the open straight section rather than the upcoming series of curves and traffic Islands. So numpty behind me overtakes, pulling out right into the path of the police car.
 

Dr Death

Old-Salt

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
Those that ride without a bone dome should be fined & banned from the road.
Hitting any part of the head om hard tarmac will hurt & might cause brain damage or worse death.
Totalling irresponsible not to be protected & all should have to have insurance too.
I have been cycling and motorcycling for over 45 years

My Father ( still alive in his 90s) nearly died when a car driver opened a door without looking, in London, this would have been in the early 60s
he had multiple skull fractures and was not expected to live
3 months in hospital, 30 percent memory loss, 10 years recovering, no balance for 2 years, anger issues !, he used to walk to work 8 miles each way every day
cant cope with sudden noise
I never used to wear a helmet, I tried, but I found car drivers were more aggressive towards me, did one week on and one week off with the helmets to check it was not my imagination ??
but then I was hit at a Major road junction, luckily Judo taught me to roll ,my head was the only bit that didnt get damaged
but when the Doctor sat me down and explained what I needed to do to recover, he asked if I was wearing a helmet, no I said I wear a flat cap
but you turned up here on a motorcycle wearing a Helmet
er yes
since that time I have always worn one
my wife likewise, and it saved her life when she slide off on a road junction and hit her head on the traffic island
I took her to hospital along with the helmet, the doctor examined here, and said without that helmet, your 5 mph fall would have ended up in the morgue, the steel on the island would have fracture her temple
however if you make it law, young people will avoid wearing them to look cool
my bike is insured, as the 15 thousand pound bill for my accident showed when it hit his insurance company, who he had failed to inform ??
I had given him by business card and asked him to call me, silly really, I would have asked him to pay for the cycle, but not my time off work, or visits to the doctor

but making cycles wear reg plates and carry legal insurance etc is a waste of time
we no longer have dedicated traffic officers or beat police to enforce it
it will cost more to set up and run than it will cover, and certain communities who have specialised in fraudulent motor claims will find a nice new business line to pay for those large German cars and house in India
 
I think its down to attitude and manners, a couple of my younger friend do time trials and race but they tend to avoid groups otherwise, I used to enter time trials as a youngster to improve my health
but I never really enjoyed it when cycling with large groups, and the loud one did stupid things and got others involved, things that person would never do on there own
same with motorcycling,
I dont ride a high end road bike ( gave mine away) because I am very old, a bit overweight, and have one useless leg ( its in good company)
ergo the upright bike is ideal, my nice neighbour rides an MTB thingy but always on his own, he gets to all sorts of amazing places, sometimes I ride out with him, he is very pleasant and laid back, and avoids risks
much the same with cars, I know two people with AUDIs, one is the stereotypical Alpha male full of Aggression and always getting stressed and shouting at people, the other one is a G.P. very professional and a smooth driver
Keep riding on two wheels as long as you feel able. More power to you.

Just please don't try and tell me what kind of bike I should be riding, how much I should be spending, and what kind of clothing I should be wearing. I ride my carbon road bike, or my mountain bike or my TT bike depending on what I'm out for and I ride each differently. I also wear clothes that are suited to what type of riding I'm doing, so obviously, that would be massively baggy shorts and a hoody on the mountain bike... I do this for comfort and convenience. For example, my tweed riding suit isn't very aero and doesn't give me the freedom of movement I need on the TT bike.

I share your dislike of group riding - I never did it on my motorcycles and I don't on my bicycle. 90% of the time I cycle alone and the rest with my drinking buddy Al, or my wife. However, I see nothing wrong in group cycling if that's what they enjoy. I know some people, mostly women, who will only ride in a group as they feel unsafe otherwise. If it takes group riding to get them out, then why not.

Anyway here's a nice little article from Captain Slow. Sorry if it's paywalled.

 
Those that ride without a bone dome should be fined & banned from the road.
Hitting any part of the head om hard tarmac will hurt & might cause brain damage or worse death.
Totalling irresponsible not to be protected & all should have to have insurance too.
Do you wear a helmet when you walk?
Do you have insurance for walking?
 
Those that ride without a bone dome should be fined & banned from the road.
Hitting any part of the head om hard tarmac will hurt & might cause brain damage or worse death.
Totalling irresponsible not to be protected & all should have to have insurance too.
I've fallen off bikes about half a dozen times, usually with a bit of a scrape but a few broken bones and one near-death experience. Not too bad for 25-odd years of cycling on and off roads.

A helmet would not have made the slightest difference in any of my fuckups. If it becomes law then I will wear one, until that point I can't be arsed. I'd rather put my trust in awareness, cycling defensively and assuming every other road user (including pedestrians) is trying to kill me.
 
Do you wear a helmet when you walk?
Do you have insurance for walking?
I don't know if it's the same now, but when I lived in Switzerland in the 90's, it was common for everyone to have Personal Liability Insurance, which covers you for any kind of claim of bodily harm or property damage that you might cause. I actually used mine once when I knocked my motorbike off it's stand onto my landlord's car on our driveway. Because it wasn't on the road, it wasn't covered by the normal vehicle insurance.

I don't know if you can get it here, but it would have been useful when my three sons were growing up. I can think of a few times I could have claimed against it.
 

shadowonarun

Old-Salt
I'll bite and raise ...number 1 sons latest purchase in Cambodia.
On the plus side, its very cheap to hire a family to perch on it for that authentic look!View attachment 478972
I found that delight after riding through France coming down the Route Napoleon. As I'd been bunging round the bends in the mountains just prior to this I considered myself quite fortunate to be still alive.
Straight into the first Le Kwik Fit I could find and allowed them liberal use of my Visa card while I drank coffee over the road.
 
What's wrong with a daysack?
I dislike cycling with any form of backpack due to 'sweaty back', higher CofG and the potential for objects to move around if its not full, thereby affecting lateral balance.
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
I don't know if it's the same now, but when I lived in Switzerland in the 90's, it was common for everyone to have Personal Liability Insurance, which covers you for any kind of claim of bodily harm or property damage that you might cause. I actually used mine once when I knocked my motorbike off it's stand onto my landlord's car on our driveway. Because it wasn't on the road, it wasn't covered by the normal vehicle insurance.

I don't know if you can get it here, but it would have been useful when my three sons were growing up. I can think of a few times I could have claimed against it.
when my brother took out the windscreen of the Chief Constables Humber, our house insurance covered the cost of the repairs
he on the other hand !"!!!
 
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