Now then gents. with the impending demise of VE's and the subsequent retrading of us all to VM's with the result of another 200 Cpl's dropped into the VM role chasing THE SAME AMOUNT OF SGT VACANCIES as before. I ask the question: Will this screw up promotion for VM's and will this also career foul the Ex VE's ? The good ol' boss man in his letter to VE's has stated that we will not be career fouled but I find this almost incredulous and I can't see how this can be achieved !!! Would you as an OC LAD give a higher CR to a 15 year VM who runs your shopfloor or a 14 year VE/1 year VM who is learning his trade ?