B Coy, 4 PARA recruit cadres 2011.

#1
Hi gents,

Been trawling through a large number of 4 PARA posts going back several years, was hoping that somebody here could shed some light on this year's cadre dates? I'm hoping to join summer 2011, and was in touch with ROSWO at White City to confirm eligiblity. I'm a full-time author so have spare time, but a busy year ahead so trying to sort everything now rather than get in a flap or waste the recruiting team's time later.

I'm 38, had previous experience with the now disbanded 16 (Ind) Coy, 4 PARA in the 1990s. Reached late stages of recruit phase just before CIC and P Coy, when family unobligingly decided to move out of the area. I've been told I'm okay to try out for the Reg again until I'm 42 due to previous experience (!), assuming fitness and attitude hit the mark. 1.5 mile pace is around 10 minutes currently, sit-ups and press ups no probs, and running all the hills I can find to get prepared.

Many thanks for anyone who can spare a mo' to reply, especially any other old gits like myself who know the score at B Coy! :)

D
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#2
Dean

Just a quick word. "PERSEC".

Get yourself a new user-name and come back.

Other than that, well done for even thinking about P Coy when you're such an old fart.
 
#4
I am guessing the summer cadre will start Julyish, the one i was on last summer was first weekend july CIC/P coy decmber. The current cadre is finishing middle of June.
 
#5
Thanks - that fits with the 2010 calendar that used to be on 4 PARA's website, which has now been removed but not updated to this year yet. Just 2 TA cadres per year then, with P Coy for the entire battalion's recruits at Catterick. Going to be bloody cold up there come December - must remember to pack my slippers, pipe and Horlicks.... :)
 

The_Duke

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#7
You will be asked to attend an insight evening at White City TA centre. On that you will be given a brief about the training programme including the dates of all training weekends and CIC/P Coy.

The 1.5 in under 10 minutes will just get you through the acceptance standard for 4 Para on the TA recruit selection weekend, but you need to be comfortably under 9.30 by the time you start the cadre if you are to stand a chance of keeping up with the pace.

Older recruits tend to be mentally stronger but often struggle with the physical demands, especially if they are carrying old injuries or pick up new ones as they don't tend to recover as quickly. There are no age based allowances on P Coy, so get running!
 
#8
Thanks Duke - I'm going to get back in touch with ROSWO at White City to organise a visit. Was hoping to go up in January but couldn't make it. My 1.5 mile time was 11.20 ish a month ago, so by June / July I'm hoping to have it much closer to 9 minutes. I'm lucky enough to live somewhere surrounded by some pretty serious hills, so plenty of scope for improvement across the board. As you mention, injuries and my ability to recover from them are my main concern, but I've heard of people getting through P Coy in their early forties now and again. All up to me now to try to meet the physical demands and thus hopefully limit the chances of damaging myself beyond repair.

Watershed2100: Minus 15 degrees?! That's seriously harsh! Get through that, and you can get through anything mate :)
 
#9
Minus 15 on last CIC mate one guy nearly lost his toes to frostbite brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr made P Coy emotional lol.
Yea that was pretty chilly on that CIC with 6 days out in the field to boot. The 8 mile CFT in 10 inches of snow was absolutely the toughest one I have ever done.

I too am an oldie at 42 so know the score on trying to stay fit, although a lot of people say its all in the mind etc you must be as well prepared as you possibly can.
Totally aggree with the hills hills and more hills as normal road running just will not get you any where near fit enough for PCoy. You also have to be robust and work thru the pain barrier to get that Maroon Lid.
 
#11
This thread has cheered me up no end, as am 36 this year, been out of regs since mid 2008 & am thinking of trying out for 4 para (white city) at the end of the year...am gonna train like f*ck all year, so I don't waste their time or mine..good luck lads.
 
#12
I'm half way through my application to join 4para (awaiting medical) but I've just found out there is absolutely no way I'll be able to take 2 weeks off in December for P Company because of work. Do anyone have any advise as to what I should do?
 
#13
I'm half way through my application to join 4para (awaiting medical) but I've just found out there is absolutely no way I'll be able to take 2 weeks off in December for P Company because of work. Do anyone have any advise as to what I should do?
Either perform miracles and get work to give you two weeks off or be prepared to wait several months for another slot on TA PPS.

Simples.
 
#14
Yes mate would be great, am gonna take it one step at a time so gonna be training for the TA recruit selection weekend BPFA (6 months training or so), want to get around 9 mins if possible so i have a half decent time to build on. If you have any info on what's actually expected at the recruit selection weekend regarding the phizz, i'd be grateful if you could PM me, cheers mate.
 
#15
There is an Insight evening on the 1st March at White City which I am going to attend. Im not sure if its a formal invite, or anyone can turn up? Hope this helps.
 
#16
Thanks mate, PM replied. I'll be at the Insight night most likely, although as I have some previous experience they may not require me to trek up there for it. Either way, see you on the cadre hopefully!
 
#17
Likely see you at Catterick in November, as I'm another auld bod at 38 heading for 15 Coy 4 Para.

Shall pm you cadre dates from July - Dec for 2011.

All the Best mate,

Mac
Just a brief note here that I visited White City today and was told that although my application will be put through, it's unlikely I'll be accepted onto the next cadre. The advice given was that unless a potential recruit had already been through Depot, it's unlikely they'd get through P Coy at 38 years of age, both due to fitness considerations and to the fact that they'd be starting from scratch with an already reduced likelihood of completing the cadre.

I'll know for sure within a couple of days, and will maybe head for 3 PWRR instead ( if they'll have me! ).
 
#18
Just a brief note here that I visited White City today and was told that although my application will be put through, it's unlikely I'll be accepted onto the next cadre. The advice given was that unless a potential recruit had already been through Depot, it's unlikely they'd get through P Coy at 38 years of age, both due to fitness considerations and to the fact that they'd be starting from scratch with an already reduced likelihood of completing the cadre.

I'll know for sure within a couple of days, and will maybe head for 3 PWRR instead ( if they'll have me! ).
I was on last CIC/P Coy at 36 a few guys my age and older were there, the age limit is 44 with previous im sure.
 
#19
I passed it at 38, its all in the mind, if you really want it ENOUGH then show this to the staff, I know quite a few of them, they are mostly great blokes and are there to help you pass NOT fail you, you will do that yourself if you can't hack a small amount of discomfort and back to basics training.

Good luck, you will need it

Watershed did you pass? If I recall 12 out of 45 passed.
 

The_Duke

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#20
Unfortunately, you do not have previous military experience, you have just attended but failed to complete a recruit cadre some 10+ years ago. On its own that is not enough to get you a "previous experience" dispensation. That said, it is not entirely beyond hope. You could ask if they will support you through your TARS (ie they take your application and send you to Pirbright for the initial selection). Ask them if they will consider your application again in the light of your achieving s suitable result at TARS.

If they will, get out and run your lungs off, because you will need to be well under your current 10 minutes to convince them that you are worth the risk. If you don't make the time your TARS pass (assuming you do pass to the required standard to join the TA) will still be valid and allow you to go straight to any other TA unit of your choice ready to start the recruit training process. TARS pass but not to 4 Para standard is a well trodden path - many others have done so and gone on to serve in other TA units.
 
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