Australian Defense Force selects Boeing AH-64E Guardian to replace the Tiger

[Bushmills]

Hypothetical question; what helicopters should Australia be buying for the ADF and why? Also, should the Eurocopter EC135 be going to the Australian Navy as I have heard that they're prone to rust, is this just a rumour? Also is the NHIndustries NH90 a pile of sh*t?

 

[TXSapper]

Blackhawks - there are lots of different models, loads of people use them, and you already have them.

 

[retread2]

Blackhawks - there are lots of different models, loads of people use them, and you already have them.

Too obvious. Sadly it will be a political decision, look at the mish-mash currently in service.

 

[TXSapper]

Unfortunately, you are right. I wonder what the UK paid per unit per Merlin, vs what we could have had Seahawks for.

 

[tiger stacker]

Unfortunately, you are right. I wonder what the UK paid per unit per Merlin, vs what we could have had Seahawks for.

Load lift capacity of Merlin Vs Seahawk is down to the third engine.....

 

[mudbutton]

 

[rustygun]

AH64 and UH60M and CH47D or MH53. The Jews have 53s, why shouldn't we?
Yes, the NH90 is beginning is becoming recognised as the piece of crap we always knew it was.

F35B and nuclear subs for the RAN while we're at it.

 

[Funnelweb]

Problem is we get a workable platform then the project team Australianise them and thus begins years of costly issues: Tanker, AWAC, Spartan, Tiger Helo, Sea sprite etc etc
C17 was probably the only acquisition that was purchased off the shelf and has been relatively trouble free.

 

[Raven2008]

ADF have selected the Ah-64E Guardian to replace the Tiger so there it is laughingly it’s throwback near quarter of century ago when the AH-64D was one of many contenders such as the Armed Blackhawk, AH-1W/Z, Rooivalk and Tiger of which the latter won and has been little difficult to get fully up and running. Some may argue it was parItaly to do with assembling under Hawker in Australia...

Future ready - strengthening Army's armed reconnaissance capability | Department of Defence Ministers

The Australian Army’s armed reconnaissance capability will be strengthened following the selection of Boeing Apache Guardian to replace Army’s Armed Reconnaissance Helicopter (ARH) from 2025.Minister for Defence, Senator the Hon Linda Reynolds CSC said the AH-64E Apache Guardian is equipped with...

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[ThunderBox]

Great result but really must irk many about the waste of money on the Tiger.

I think the Aussies had to rely on other nations in Afghanistan because the Tiger wasn’t capable, a waste of opportunity to build capability in the services too (unless Army pilots in Aus flew coalition helos)?

 

[Cromarty]

Great result but really must irk many about the waste of money on the Tiger.

I think the Aussies had to rely on other nations in Afghanistan because the Tiger wasn’t capable, a waste of opportunity to build capability in the services too (unless Army pilots in Aus flew coalition helos)?

"irk" is an understatement. The Tiger fiasco is another procurement ADF disgrace. That is happened when our soldiers were in need of air support boaders on criminal.

I thought we should have gone with the Bell AH-1W/Z offer initially. We work very closely with the USMC and it is fully marinized for deployment on the LHD's. They work great in desert conditions as well. We could have had the AH-W's almost straight away and the -Z's when they became available.

 

[ThunderBox]

We are in bed with Boeing though.

 

[Cromarty]

Better Boeing than that Euro trash. We should especially have NOTHING to do with anything the French are involved with.

 

[ThunderBox]

Same with the U.K. and Europe.

 

[ThunderBox]

Better Boeing than that Euro trash. We should especially have NOTHING to do with anything the French are iinvolved with.

Subs are the next fiasco involving the French!

 

[Boxy]

IIRC the French flew Tigers in Afghanistan, I seem to remember seeing them flying in strike groups, well in the company of their Pumas on more than occasion in the skies over Kabul

 

[Raven2008]

IIRC the French flew Tigers in Afghanistan, I seem to remember seeing them flying in strike groups, well in the company of their Pumas on more than occasion in the skies over Kabul

And the German Heeresflieger as well on escort with their NH90 TTH.

cheers

 

[PhotEx]

And to think, loud voices at the time advocated we bought Tigre, not Apache.

 

[hoofie]

Subs are the next fiasco involving the French!

That is going to be an utter train wreck that will make the Tiger fiasco look like defence procurement at it’s best.

 

[PhotEx]

Better Boeing than that Euro trash. We should especially have NOTHING to do with anything the French are involved with.

See the way the RAAF got shafted with Mirage