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Australia and Canada on green taxes

Do you think Governments truly think 'green tax' is anything other than a nice little earner. What percentage, if any of green tax is genuinely spent on green energy research, for example?
 

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None of it, they sign up to treaties that we dont get a referendum on knowing they can use them to stiff us for more dosh! More democracy less government!
 
California is big on green taxes...its also big on business's leaving the state.
 
According to the polls, Harper's biggest challenge next year is going to be keeping his party from being relegated to third place in the upcoming elections. Making an alliance with him for something that will happen in December of 2015 is a waste of time.

Bellowing at everyone that you don't care what they think and that you're going to just steamroll over them makes for great partisan party speeches, but unless you're a North Korean dictator it doesn't get buy-in from all the people you have to work with. Publicly telling Obama that you're not going to take 'no' for an answer from him when you want his approval on a pipeline for selling oil to them isn't exactly the path to success if you have no way to force him to do what you want (good luck on that one when dealing with the president of the US). Even the oil industry and senior members of Harper's own party are saying that Harper can't get things done due to his confrontational style and that someone else who can build consensus is needed.

All the major political parties in Canada want to further develop the oil industry. The other two though (and increasingly the non-Harperite Conservatives) realise that when you live in a global economy and you want to export your oil, gas, and coal to the rest of the world, you have to take their views into account. They can do without you a lot more easily than you can do without them. If you don't take part in discussions with them, then they'll form their policies without you and you'll end up living with the results anyway without any chance to influence what they are.

Being against wind farms and being sceptical of the utility of photo-voltaic panels in a cloudy climate isn't the same thing as being against the idea of doing something about climate change. You can be against specific technology because you don't think they are practical without being "against the environment".

I don't know what Cameron's policies are, but he can call wind turbines "green crap" while still doing more for climate change in Britain than anyone else ever has by simply smoothing the way for a few new nuclear power plants to be built. Let him nail his colours to that mast and declare that to be his climate change plan. It would get him a lot further than pissing into the wind (turbine) and allying himself to a doomed "coalition of the irrelevant".
 
Do you think Governments truly think 'green tax' is anything other than a nice little earner. What percentage, if any of green tax is genuinely spent on green energy research, for example?

That is green tax in a nutshell.
 
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