Aussie nurses raped before being massacred by Japanese

It doesn't detract from the vile-ness of the above, but it does seem a lot like the well-documented medical experiments carried out in Nazi concentration camps.
Well you could say the nazi experiments were by SS doctors, where the B-29 crew was dissected alive by Civilian doctors
 
If Jap cars were banned, then they bloody well should have been.
Their vehicles from that era were absolute junk and should have been banned for being junk.
As opposed to the British mass-produced cars of that time, which were exemplars of craftsmanship and design.

That's why nobody buys Japanese cars any more.

Oh wait...
 
Many Asian countries aren't keen on the Japanese because of their war time antics.
In Asia anything that happened more than 20 years ago was a very long time indeed and nothing that need concern people today.

The memories of Japanese occupation were certainly not good, but for the most part it only lasted two or three years. The people with first hand memories of those days mostly passed away a long time ago.

I know that it is different in China, where it is government policy to keep stoking ancient memories. Perhaps in Korea, where the comfort women issue is still kept alive, there are also bad memories but for Koreans the Korean War and the subsequent dread of conflict with the North very much outweighs any antipathy, what little there is, to Japan.

For the rest of Asia no one has any real problem with Japan. Japanese youth culture is extremely popular, Japanese tourists and businessmen are always welcome being unfailingly polite, friendly and well-behaved, and well-paid.

There is intra-Asian animosity evident in spades, but that is directed towards the Chinese, not the Japanese.
 
As opposed to the British mass-produced cars of that time, which were exemplars of craftsmanship and design.

That's why nobody buys Japanese cars any more.

Oh wait...
I was stating 60s and 70s when they first started being imported, they were junk.
I personally have not purchased any vehicle but Japanese since the mid 80s.
 
I was stating 60s and 70s when they first started being imported, they were junk.
I personally have not purchased any vehicle but Japanese since the mid 80s.
Me neither, if it doesn't have Honda or Toyota on the front (gone are the days when Mercedes badges were my brand of choice) I am not buying it.
 
It had been much higher.

The refusal of racist Officers to treat the Japanese with deference after the surrender of The Philippines ‘I ain’t bowing to no stinking jap’ had been identified as a factor in the extremely brutal treatment of the US POWs

Percival’s haughty and airy attitude towards Yamashita Causing him to loose his temper didn’t help the troops in Singapore either. He didn’t act like a defeated enemy, he acted like a snooty Headmaster negotiating with an unruly student. The Japanese came to treat Percival with utter contempt, not on,y fir bed g defeated, but like Von Paulus, his utter indifference for his men when surrendering.
"Percival’s haughty and airy attitude towards Yamashita Causing him to loose his temper didn’t help the troops in Singapore either. He didn’t act like a defeated enemy, he acted like a snooty Headmaster negotiating with an unruly student. The Japanese came to treat Percival with utter contempt,"

It is worth pointing out that Singapore was not Percival's first encounter with defeat.

He led the British Army's "intelligence squad" in West Cork against Tom Barry's IRA, where he gained a universal reputation for brutality. During the Irish War of Independence, and unlike the later Troubles, the IRA did not as a matter of routine attack the British Army (they had more sense) but rather targeted the RIC. There was often a live-and-let-live attitude adopted between troops at the ground level and local IRA, this did not apply to Percival's Essex Regiment who were loathed by the people of West Cork for their violence.

There were many reports (naturally denied by the British government, because as we know British troops never treat Irish Republican prisoners with anything other than totally civility and respect) of torture carried out by men under Percival's command, including pliers used on testicles and to pull out finger nails.

I wonder did Percival spend his years in Japanese captivity ruminating on his own past deeds.
 
If Jap cars were banned, then they bloody well should have been.
Their vehicles from that era were absolute junk and should have been banned for being junk.

Hmmmmm...

1975, as usual on a cold day, spraying damp start down the carb and cursing the bloody car for refusing to start as usual.

Across the road, a chap had bought one of then new tangled Datsuns.
Oh the Lulz! Has it got bamboo brakes? Does it run on rice?

We weren’t laughing seeing him just get in his car, turn the key and it started first time, switch on his standard heated rear window, optional on British cars, switch on his radio, another optional extra on British cars, adjust his heater that actually put out heat to toasty, and drive off with a big smile.

British cars in the 70s were utter, utter crap.
 
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Hmmmmm...

1975, as usual on a cold day, spraying damp start down the carb and cursing the bloody cat for refusing to start as usual.

Across the road, a chap had bought one of then new tangled Datsuns.
Oh the Lulz! Has it got bamboo brakes? Does it run on rice?

We weren’t laughing seeing him just get in his car, turn the key and it started first time, switch on his standard heated rear window, optional on British cars, switch on his radio, another optional extra on British cars, adjust his heater that actually put out heat to toasty, and drive off with a big smile.

British cars in the 70s were utter, utter crap.
Ah! I. The days when cars had chokes and could never idle smoothly...
 
"Percival’s haughty and airy attitude towards Yamashita Causing him to loose his temper didn’t help the troops in Singapore either. He didn’t act like a defeated enemy, he acted like a snooty Headmaster negotiating with an unruly student. The Japanese came to treat Percival with utter contempt,"

It is worth pointing out that Singapore was not Percival's first encounter with defeat.

He led the British Army's "intelligence squad" in West Cork against Tom Barry's IRA, where he gained a universal reputation for brutality. During the Irish War of Independence, and unlike the later Troubles, the IRA did not as a matter of routine attack the British Army (they had more sense) but rather targeted the RIC. There was often a live-and-let-live attitude adopted between troops at the ground level and local IRA, this did not apply to Percival's Essex Regiment who were loathed by the people of West Cork for their violence.

There were many reports (naturally denied by the British government, because as we know British troops never treat Irish Republican prisoners with anything other than totally civility and respect) of torture carried out by men under Percival's command, including pliers used on testicles and to pull out finger nails.

I wonder did Percival spend his years in Japanese captivity ruminating on his own past deeds.
I do wonder why such an utter incompetent didn’t get court marshalled when he got back.
At one point, Many of the Japanese assaulting were out of food and down to 6 rounds per man when he jacked in. A General who refused to build any defensive positions on the argument ‘defences are bad for morale’.

Singapore wasn’t a defeat, the Japanese didn’t defeat the huge Garrison by force of arms, it was simply handed over by a craven General who had no spine for a fight.

During his time in captivity, the Japanese held him in such contempt, they had him feeding the prison farm animals, a pointed insult to a General Officer.
 
Singapore wasn’t a defeat, the Japanese didn’t defeat the huge Garrison by force of arms, it was simply handed over by a craven General who had no spine for a fight.

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The bulk of Singapore's Garrison were support troops / Naval personnel - not combat formations and those were not all jungle trained
Japan Had complete air superiority
The Islands water supply was in Japanese hands
There was no chance of relief.

In those circumstances what other than massive loss of life (predominantly civilian) and annoying the invaders was going to be achieved - No help was coming - today those condemning him for jacking in would in all probability be equally scathing of him if he had "fought on with no chance of winning for the sake of (his) Pride sacrificing thousands of working class men whilst he sat in his chateau drinking champers**etc"

His running of the defence may have been sub par - but perhaps jacking it in when he did with the aim of saving lives rather than make a futile gesture was both courageous on a personal level and the best tactical option.

Would Singapore holding on for a few more weeks interfered with any other Japanese operations

The logistical state of Japanese forces is a 20 20 hindsight as is the Japanese treatment of prisoners


**Other upper class toff officer class stereo types available
 
FWIW, Datsun bought the rights to an Austin and set out to build it under licence with British assistance.
An Austin engineer at the time sent a letter back the UK (early 50’s) sagely opining he felt that it would be at least a generation before they could build a car without assistance, and he did not think they would ever by able to design cars in their own right.

While he was writing this, Datsun engineers had redesigned the Austin into a far better car and were working on their first home grown design, and the rest as they say, is history.
 
The bulk of Singapore's Garrison were support troops / Naval personnel - not combat formations and those were not all jungle trained
Japan Had complete air superiority
The Islands water supply was in Japanese hands
There was no chance of relief.

In those circumstances what other than massive loss of life (predominantly civilian) and annoying the invaders was going to be achieved - No help was coming - today those condemning him for jacking in would in all probability be equally scathing of him if he had "fought on with no chance of winning for the sake of (his) Pride sacrificing thousands of working class men whilst he sat in his chateau drinking champers**etc"

His running of the defence may have been sub par - but perhaps jacking it in when he did with the aim of saving lives rather than make a futile gesture was both courageous on a personal level and the best tactical option.

Would Singapore holding on for a few more weeks interfered with any other Japanese operations

The logistical state of Japanese forces is a 20 20 hindsight as is the Japanese treatment of prisoners


**Other upper class toff officer class stereo types available

Hong Kong was hit on Day 2, it’s situation was utterly hopeless, had no air cover, yet its garrison outnumbered 4-1 fought for 2 weeks.

Singapore has a two month run up to being assaulted, had huge quantities of supplies, and a huge garrison. Before the first Japanese boot reached the Johore strait, it had given up, and only held out for a week.

The precipitate fall of Singapore with little real resistance gave a huge boost to Japanese morale, and caused a seismic fall in British morale in the whole Far East, turning defeat into a rout.

Percival was an utter dud who had no strategic grasp of the impact of his action. Sometimes a General has to die in a ditch for a lost cause for the greater good.

Battle of the Java Sea was a futile last stand, but the Navy knew it had to be done - and it did have to unintended effect of impressing the Japanese (culturally they are big on dutiful last stands) who throughout WWII usually treated RN prisoners reasonably well compared with Army prisoners who they felt had no ‘honour’.

Corregidor was on paper a pointless hold out, but it galvanised a nation.
But Percival was no Wainwright
 
Raped nurses to Datsun chokes in 196 posts.

Classic ARSSE

But overall, after reading the thread, 4 articles, 1 movie and 2 books to go over in future weeks.

Classic ARSSE
Add the film 'City of Life and Death' if you haven't seen it.
The Rape of Nanking is an exposition of Japanese behaviour - and the fact there's been little apology or acknowledgment.
 
Add the film 'City of Life and Death' if you haven't seen it.
The Rape of Nanking is an exposition of Japanese behaviour - and the fact there's been little apology or acknowledgment.

Well, the Japanese Army Veterans Association published a letter in 1985, means much more than platitudes from modern politicians.



“Whatever the severity of war or special circumstances of war psychology, we just lose words faced with this mass illegal killing. As those who are related to the prewar military, we simply apologize deeply to the people of China. It was truly a regrettable act of barbarity.”
 
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