Attention SERGEY! Russia prepares for the inevitable...

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  1. Russian Rocket Woes Undermining Confidence In Nuclear Arsenal

    Baev noted that the current production scale of six-to-eight Topol-M missiles a year is about four times lower than what is necessary for replacing the old Soviet ICBMs still in service.
    by Martin Sieff
    UPI Senior News Analyst
    Washington (UPI) Apr 20, 2006
    Russian policy makers have reacted with fury to a recent article in Foreign Affairs discussing the growing problems Russia has in maintaining its ICBM nuclear delivery systems The article, entitled "The Rise of U.S. Nuclear Primacy," by Keir A. Lieber and Daryl G. Press, ran in the March issue of Foreign Affairs.
    And it "exploded like a bomb in the Russia's higher political circles," analyst Pavel Baev wrote in Monday's edition of Eurasia Daily Monitor, which is published by the Jamestown Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank.

    The article provoked reactions in the Moscow publications "Nezavisimoe voennoe obozrenie on March 31 and in Vedomosti on March 22," Baev wrote.

    "The argument in the article is hardly new: The quantitative decline and qualitative degradation of Russian strategic forces create a situation where they could be completely obliterated by a first, 'disarming' U.S. strike," Baev wrote.

    "Whether this crucial threshold in the strategy of nuclear deterrence has already been crossed or will be in the near future is essentially an academic question, but the fact of steadily increasing U.S. superiority is beyond doubt."

    Baev noted recent Russian reports that their new land-based Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missile would be equipped with the same multiple warheads as the sea-launched Bulava ballistic missile. However, he continued, "That might indeed help in preserving the high total count of the warheads but would not resolve the accumulating problems with the delivery systems," he wrote.

    Baev noted that the current production scale of six-to-eight Topol-M missiles a year is about four times lower than what is necessary for replacing the old Soviet ICBMs still in service. Also, the new Bulava still needs many more tests before it could be ready for deployment in the new generation of nuclear submarines, he wrote.

    "That essentially means that for the next five years the naval leg of Russian nuclear triad will continue to rely on the SLBMs that are long past their expiration date," Baev wrote.

    Source: United Press International

    Now Sergey, we Brits prefer a pants dropped, legs braced, arms on the table approach with Uncle Sam 8O , but you Russians may prefer the kneeling, mouth open approach. Either way, Uncle Sam is horny and is going to fvck you. Get used to it :twisted:
     
  2. The last thing the Russians need to worry about is the spams. Look East, there is the coming superpower.
     
  3. True Mushroom, but the US Gunslingers do worry this boy.
    john
     
  4. The Chinese are slowly taking over eastern Siberia by the simple expedient of moving lots of people there.
     
  5. There is a book by Symor Sterling on the overseas Chinese. He explains how China 'colonised' so much of asia by mass exodus of it's citizens, during times of trouble in China. Where I live likes to boast it is the only Easter Country never Colonized by the West. True but the Chinese had 'take' the place so many hundred years before.
    john
    Sterlin wrote The Seven Sisters the expose on the oil industry of 30 years ago.
     
  6. Once chatting to a couple of very very senior chaps from your place Jon and they took great delight in telling me that the Brits had pinched the land to the North and South, and then bought all the teak from the LOS denuding its forests. I replied that at least it was only the wood we had taken and hadn't tried to pinch their country.
     
  7. Once again Mushroom very true.
    Teak wallahs where the reason that CM still has a Brit Consulate, admittedly now Honory as opposed to the Consul Gernral of up to late 60's.(I think). The old Teak Wallahs provided many a leader for the jungle campain of 41-45 and ledgends are still told over a Peg or two. The old companies where proud of the fact that they managed the teak and planted many more saplings then they cut down, but control was lost to companies 'owned' by the local military back in the 50's when the Military ran the country.
    We still have a few who started their time working for companies such as, Bombay Borneo and the Gymkhana club claims to be second oldest Western Club in Far East.
    Britian seems to have been happy to keep old Siam as a buffer between British and French intrests and much could be written of the border disputes of years gone by.
    The Thai's invaded Burma in 42 to recover territory, 2 division streangth, and the problems with Muslim states in the south provided great security problems to this day.
    john
     
  8. but who is this Pavel Bayev?

    http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2004/09/67ae802c-02ea-4355-ae81-61b056401483.html

    http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/1092.html

    These is well-know sort of people that know everything about everything and use to suck their knowledge from own finger.

    My brother lt.col serves in strategic missile forces. They are OK. I know it from the first hands. Btw, my other brother (retired now) served in Missile forces too.

    Russia has technologies, industrial base, plants, money (thank mr.Bush for high oil prices!) to produce as many intecontinental missiles as would be need.

    6-8 Topol's per year? Are you sure? It is a mobile complex, it is not a missile well. A construction of a missile well could be easily traced. But how can you count (not complete systems) but it components that would allow to build dozens of missiles within few weeks.

    Russia now has an abilty to destroy the whole World several times (and our American friends have the same capability).
     
  9. "Russia now has an abilty to destroy the whole World several times"
    Sergey now please behave, you'll be frightening sum of us poor boys.
    john
    PS How is President for Life Putin keeping.
     
  10. Typical sophistry from Sergey.

    Will you ever give a straight answer - or indeed answer the question? ;)
     
  11. Dear sir!

    Frankly speaking I don't see any serious directly formulated questions in the post of our friend Andy.

    In context of this theme I would like to note that:

    1. Russia has suffiecient technological and scientific basis to produce as many nuclear weapons as it wishes.

    2. Russia has such types of missiles that no one contry has. Just today Russian TV showed a launch of a missile with warhead that is able to change is course and as a result beat any existing anti-missile system.

    3. Russian side intentionally maintain level of its nuclear forces significantly lower than American one. It is politically profitable position while it is absolutely safe from military point of view.

    4. Russia is now pays more attention to its strategic air-forces.

    http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060422/46792049.html

    [​IMG]

    PS. As for this so-called 'reseacher' mr.Bayev then it is unserious source of information. What could he see from Oslo?
     
  12. I know its long Sergey, but read a couple, mate.


    Full Name Pavel K. Baev

    Biography Dr. Pavel K. Baev is a senior researcher at the International Peace Research Institute, Oslo (PRIO).


    Author's Articles SHIFTING BATTLEFIELDS OF THE CHECHEN WAR
    MOSCOW PUTS PR SPIN ON ITS SHRINKING NUCLEAR ARSENAL
    PUTIN'S FEAR OF ELECTIONS AND FEAR OF INVESTMENT
    KREMLIN CASTS LONG SHADOW OVER RUSSIAN BUSINESS
    IVANOV TAKES CHARGE OF RUSSIAN MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL CONGLOMERATE
    QUARRELS IN THE GOVERNMENT FUELLED BY INFLATION AND INTRIGUE
    MOSCOW COUNTS THE PROS AND CONS OF "SELECTIVE COOPERATION"
    SELLING "ENERGY SECURITY" IN BUDAPEST AND PRAGUE
    KHRUSHCHEV'S SECRET SPEECH AND PUTIN'S PUBLIC PRAISE
    MOSCOW'S INITIATIVE: YOUR TERRORIST IS OUR DEAR GUEST
    PUTIN, GAZPROM, AND "THE OTHER NORWEGIAN COMPANY"
    RUSSIAN ECONOMIC BOOM GOES UNNOTICED IN DAVOS
    RUSSIA STRUGGLES WITH COLD AND SHIVERS FROM ENERGY INSECURITY
    HAS MOSCOW TURNED ITS BACK ON TEHRAN?
    PUTIN PROTECTS ISLAM AND PRAISES DEMOCRACY IN GROZNY
    MOSCOW VOTES FOR LUZHKOV AS RIVALRY WITH PUTIN INTENSIFIES
    SERGEI IVANOV'S PR CAMPAIGN ROLLS OVER ONE JOURNALIST
    PUTIN'S BUREAUCRATIC RESPONSE TO RUSSIA'S ECONOMIC MISBALANCE
    PUTIN'S RUSSIA AS AN UNCERTAIN PROPOSITION
    NEWLY RUSSIAN INVENTED HOLIDAY BECOMES A DAY OF NAZI UNITY
    PUTIN PERFORMS A EUROPEAN PIROUETTE
    THE RUNAWAY TRAWLER AND RUSSIA'S WOUNDED PRIDE
    GAZPROM LOSES ITALIAN DEAL, CORRUPTION COULD CAUSE MORE UPSETS
    WAS IT MOSTLY IRAN THAT RICE DISCUSSED WITH LAVROV AND PUTIN IN MOSCOW?
    NOBEL COMMITTEE SENDS WARNING TO THE RUSSIAN MILITARY
    STATE BUDGET POSES RISKS FOR RUSSIAN ECONOMY
    PUTIN PRAISES STABILITY AND PROMISES PROSPERITY
    IN GREAT HASTE KHODORKOVSKY FOUND GUILTY, GETS ONE YEAR LESS THAN SENTENCED
    LACKING SUBSTANCE, MOSCOW PREFERS TO TALK TERRORISM
    GAZPROM'S NEW EUROPEAN ROUTE: CRY UKRAINE?
    POURING OIL MONEY OVER STAGNATION AND DISCONTENT
    RUSSIA'S REGIONS: NEVER-ENDING RESHUFFLING WITH DIMINISHING RETURNS
    MOSCOW DODGES IRAN'S NUCLEAR OFFENSIVE
    PUTIN'S SINKING PRESIDENCY: WHAT EFFICIENCY?
    DISENTANGLING THE MOSCOW-BERLIN AXIS: FOLLOW THE MONEY
    THE SILENCE OF THE SILOVIKI: HAVE THEY LOST PUTIN'S TRUST?
    PUTIN'S AGENDA PREVAILS AT THE G-8 SUMMIT: IT IS TERRORISM, COMRADES!
    THE PRESIDENTIAL VERTICAL ECONOMY AND THE OIL SHOWER
    RUSSIA DEFLECTS EUROPEAN CRITICISM WITH THE PRETENCE OF SELF-ISOLATION
    CHUBAIS SURVIVES YET AGAIN, BUT THE PROSPECTS FOR HIS REFORMS ARE NOT GREAT
    SERGEI IVANOV CHALLENGES THE NEW POLITICAL GENERATION
    RUSSIA'S SHRINKING HORIZONS OF ECONOMIC PLANNING AND POLITICAL PLOTTING
    PUBLIC SENTIMENT TURNS TOWARD KHODORKOVSKY, WHILE PUTIN GRAPPLES WITH BLACKOUT
    MOSCOW IS UNIMPRESSED BY PUTIN'S CELEBRATIONS
    NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION MEETS ADMINISTRATIVE CORRUPTION IN RUSSIA
    IDLE PETRO-RUBLES ARE A RECIPE FOR STAGFLATION
    WAS THE RICE-LAVROV QUARREL REALLY ABOUT BELARUS?
    PUTIN SEEKS TO ASSERT CONTROL WITHOUT LEADERSHIP
    AS CHECHNYA BRACES FOR NEW VIOLENCE, PUTIN RETREATS INTO DENIAL
    THE NORTH CAUCASUS SLIPS OUT OF CONTROL
    PUTIN'S RESIDUAL EUROPEANISM AND CREEPING SELF-ISOLATION
    PUTIN'S TEAM IN DISARRAY OVER OIL MONEY
    WILL PUTIN PULL THE PLUG ON THE CIS?
    MOSCOW INSISTS ON SEEING NO EVIL IN IRAN
    IS EUROPE TOO SMALL FOR BOTH BUSH AND PUTIN?
    CAN RUSSIA TAKE ITS PLACE IN THE G8 FOR GRANTED?
    GAZPROM'S CRISIS OF OVERGROWTH
    PUTIN'S ERODING SUPPORT BASE
    MISSILES FOR SALE : MOSCOW FINDS NO PROBLEM WITH SYRIA
    WHAT IS WRONG WITH ANDREI ILLARIONOV?
    CHECHNYA: FROM YELTSIN'S MISTAKE TO PUTIN'S FAILURE
    GREED, GAZPROM, AND GREF: THE MAKING OF A SUPER-MONOPOLY
    NEEDING A SCAPEGOAT FOR FIASCO IN UKRAINE, MOSCOW SLAMS OSCE
    A TALE OF TWO INDEXES: SHIFTS IN INVESTMENT ACTIVITY SLOWS RUSSIAN GROWTH
    PUTIN'S "WONDER" MISSILES: BLUFF, THREAT, OR PEP TALK?
    THE BERLIN WALL AND RUSSIA'S VERTICAL POWER STRUCTURE
    PUTIN AND BERLUSCONI: AN ODD FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN PRESIDENT BUSH'S BEST FRIENDS
    PUTIN SETS NEW GOALS FOR RUSSIA'S NATIONAL IDENTITY
    WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO RUSSIA'S ECONOMIC POLICY?
    THE DESTRUCTION OF YUKOS AND PUTIN'S ESTRANGEMENT FROM THE WEST
    PUTIN ASSERTS THAT TERRORISTS SEEK BUSH'S ELECTORAL DEFEAT
    GEORGIA CHALLENGES THE KREMLIN'S WORLDVIEW
    TWO SOUTHERN FAILURES: THE SECOND CHECHEN WAR AND THE "DEAL OF THE CENTURY"
    MOSCOW CONVENIENTLY FORGETS CHECHNYA
    PUTIN'S NEW COURSE: MAXIMIZING CONTROL AND SACRIFICING EFFICIENCY
    RUSSIAN PREVENTIVE STRIKES -- OPTIONS AND CAPABILITIES
    MOSCOW SEEKS TO CONTROL SPIN ON THE BESLAN TRAGEDY
    THE EUROPEAN TROIKA MEETS IN SOCHI
     
  13. Hi Wha_Dar!

    What can I say? Typical CIA-paid 'journalist', typic representatice of the second oldest profession (the first one is a prostitution). And there is no a direct connection between number and quality of his 'articles'.
     
  14. Ord_Sgt

    Ord_Sgt RIP

    Good old Sergey, consistant as ever.
     
  15. Consistent? Almost all our friends here are consitent. So I'm not an exception.