attention blandford cadre

#1
Has it ever occured to the people in charge of the upgraders at blandford camp that you were once in there position...although saying that since you are troop cadre then no you probably havnt. As far as I can tell, the fullscrews in charge think of themselves as being better than everyone else and more than likely have some sort of deficiency which they are reluctant to talk about. As for the higher ranks well the newly arrived one at least, did he ever think that it would be better for the upgraders to be treated with respect and dignity and to stop messing up there time at blandford....the incentive to stay as a technician or operator is at an all time low and will be even lower with this kind of treatment. I believe what a lot of people have said....stop treating the phase 2's with such cotton wool coated fingers....when they get to a unit they are a waste of oxygen because you lot dont know what they are expected to do.. We have to put up with a newly delivered SPROG being gobby and rude and frankly not worth his number on the ration returns. They need a bit more education and a little less mothering. If it were up to a lot of people then the voices of the upgraders would be heard more instead of being dismissed along with the food from the cookhouse. Dont worry upgraders.....your day will come. Maybe you can make more of an impact when you yourselves are seniors although it aint happened yet. Get your arrse in gear Blandford and stop bringing the Corps down with you.
 
#2
Whoa there, dont beat round the bush, just say what you mean.

Well said that man. Its back to bloody_tiprats post Cpl + desk is the highest rank in the royal signals. Just hope the individuals in question realise what they might have done before they go down choughs on saturday night. Think a few less upgraders might be offering to buy certrain individuals a pint his weeknd, if you know what i mean.
 
#3
Although the attitude of certain screws leave a lot to be desired. Idle fuc8kers to boot. This is all coming from higher. So to all that feel agreived by this situation, switch fire!!!
 
#4
True but so much pleasure be taken in enforcing it.
 
#5
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sandypandy said:
Evening all, it's my first post so be gentle.....
Am presently at Blandford fm 264, and the "shape of berets" argument has continued to be an issue that draws fire from all kinds of places, including Lt Col rank.....

1. Some people simply don't like the shape [flat cap], find it irritating, un-uniformal, and unprofessional.
2. Some folks think that the airborne and SF blokes large it outrageously.

My responses to these (fairly reasonable thoughts) are as follows:

  • 1. I don't like the dead budgie thing the Fusiliers wear, but realise that they (rightly) wear it as a unit badge of honour that distinguishes them from their infantry brethren, from whom they would otherwise be no different. All infantry units have their individual traditions, and their esprit-de-corps is all the better for it. My opinion on their headgear is irrelevant - I don't work there, nor do I command them. If the fusiliers is a better place for having a flock of dead budgies, then great. All power to them. Time spent contemplating the shape of the airborne beret might be better spent getting other signals personnel to the same standards as the 264/216 lads who are usually around the top at phys, trade, and military knowledge.

    Because rest of the Corps simply doesn't have the calibre of men to pass the two courses in anything like sufficient numbers, both units have a large percentage of similarly dressed signallers who are not qualified to be there. Thus the (maybe un-liked) beret shape is the only way to tell a 264 Special Forces Communicator from some bloke who's just been posted in to answer the phone at Hereford. No one's knocking the posted lads - I'm glad they're there, it means we can get on with our primary task. But I trained for a year and a bit, followed by a 6 month course and a 6 month probationary period, to work with a sabre sqd. Therefore I wear the relevant beret shape. Even if it looks daft. I've earned the right to.

    2. We are fairly guilty of the larging it to a point. Some senior Corps individuals have probably identified that wearing the alley beret and smocks / Lowa boots acts as a kind of mobile middle-finger-up at the rest of the corps. There is without a doubt an element of truth about this. It should be remembered that this serves two vital purposes :
    It UNDOUBTABLY aids 264 and 216 recruitment. Not everyone wants to parachute or tab, but EVERYBODY who serves in the army has at some point or other thought "I fu@::{g hate this place. I'd love to go someplace I can do something else where the place/people I work for/with don't get me down...." At which point a group of airborne lads, smiling and not letting life get to them, go past. The poor sod from 3 Div thinks, "Right, screw this, I'm gonna do that."

    Everyone can relate to giving the middle finger to the corps, because we've all wanted to do it at some point really, really badly. I'm aware this isn't a popular fact, understandably, but as an aid to getting people motivated to prepare hard enough to pass the courses it serves a purpose, and as long as the guys don't over-do the larging it this should probably be left alone.

    3. It aids 216 and 264 esprit-de-corps. Having worked hard to get people there, we also want to keep people there. Part of being a team involves (unfortunately) having people outside the group as well as inside. That's part of the definition of a team - there are people who don't get to join in because they aren't good enough. Sad, elitist maybe, but necessary to form strong bonds. Who's going to work hard to join a team any fool can get into ? The only sign of being on the team at those units is the alley beret. It is a visible "badge" of being part of a group that others can aspire to. I have yet to met anyone who said "I really want to wear a small plane on my arm/ charging rhino/number one". Certainly never met anyone who was so proud to be there that they tatooed the damn thing on their body! Wings, on the other hand....
    Daft maybe. But it works.
Thus in conclusion I would say this. If the Corps Command element, clearly based at Blandford, left the Beret shape alone, it would quickly find the lads from Hereford towing the line on other issues such as sideburns and boots. If it allowed 264 / 216 blokes posted to Blandford as instructors to retain their beret's (as is done at all other trg establishments) they would find a higher quality of instructor applying to work there, which would have positive knock-on effects at Blandford.

Whilst Blandford continues to give the beret (which whilst as daft as a dead budgie clearly has a decent reason behind it) a hard time whilst simultaneously having fat unprofessional instructors and RP staff who clearly don't want to work there, then the fit, motivated, and knowledgeable lads from 216 and Hereford will continue to think the place hypocritical - and act accordingly. Which is a shame, since Blandford could actually be a great place to work.

Sorry it was long, as the bishop said to the actress. Thanks for reading.
 
#6
Although i agree with most of what you said i have to point out that not everyone here is a fat unprofessional instructor. I admire you for having done the revelant courses and got where you are, but i am fit, motivated, and knowledgeable and have no desire to go 264 or 216! :roll:
 
#7
sayitloud

Oh Feck, here we go again with the weekly whine by an aggrieved upgrader, stop fecking gobbing off and get down the bloody BAR you bloody poofter.

Bet you're a Tech to boot :wink:

Daz
 
#8
WILL IVE JUST FINISED A COURSE ATBLANDFORD AS A RE-TRADE ITS NOT JUST THE UP GRADERS WHAT GET IT I WAS CLASSED AS PHASE 3 AS I CAME FROM A WORKING UNIT BUT I WAS IN PHASE 2 ACCOM BUT WHEN I WAS OUT I WASNT ALOUD TO GO OUT THE CAMP WITH ANY PHASE 2 OR DRINK WITH THEM THAT MENT I COUL NOT DRINK WITH MY COURSE SO ONE NIGHT I WENT DOWN TOWN WITH A COUPLE OF THEM THEN WHEN I GOT BACK I GOT DONE OVER BY THE PROVO STAFF AND WHATS GOING OPN PHASE 3 NEED SOME WHERE TO DRINK APART FROM THE BOWLING ALIE
 
#9
johnboy401 said:
WILL IVE JUST FINISED A COURSE ATBLANDFORD AS A RE-TRADE ITS NOT JUST THE UP GRADERS WHAT GET IT I WAS CLASSED AS PHASE 3 AS I CAME FROM A WORKING UNIT BUT I WAS IN PHASE 2 ACCOM BUT WHEN I WAS OUT I WASNT ALOUD TO GO OUT THE CAMP WITH ANY PHASE 2 OR DRINK WITH THEM THAT MENT I COUL NOT DRINK WITH MY COURSE SO ONE NIGHT I WENT DOWN TOWN WITH A COUPLE OF THEM THEN WHEN I GOT BACK I GOT DONE OVER BY THE PROVO STAFF AND WHATS GOING OPN PHASE 3 NEED SOME WHERE TO DRINK APART FROM THE BOWLING ALIE
bet you didn't do any typing skills though did you?
 
#10
johnboy401,

Perhaps you should go back and ask them to explain the intricacy's of the caps lock to you ???, :wink: :wink: :wink:


Not surprised they kept you in camp typing like that :lol: :lol: :lol: try drinking white lighting in your room next time :wink:

Daz

Ps, my hearts beating purple piss on hearing your sorry tale

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
#11
johnboy401 so what did you retrade to ???
 
#13
You lot sure it's retrade and not retard ??? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Daz
 
#14
johnboy401 said:
WILL IVE JUST FINISED A COURSE ATBLANDFORD AS A RE-TRADE ITS NOT JUST THE UP GRADERS WHAT GET IT I WAS CLASSED AS PHASE 3 AS I CAME FROM A WORKING UNIT BUT I WAS IN PHASE 2 ACCOM BUT WHEN I WAS OUT I WASNT ALOUD TO GO OUT THE CAMP WITH ANY PHASE 2 OR DRINK WITH THEM THAT MENT I COUL NOT DRINK WITH MY COURSE SO ONE NIGHT I WENT DOWN TOWN WITH A COUPLE OF THEM THEN WHEN I GOT BACK I GOT DONE OVER BY THE PROVO STAFF AND WHATS GOING OPN PHASE 3 NEED SOME WHERE TO DRINK APART FROM THE BOWLING ALIE
looks like you have just Re-traded from liney to storeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you were probably only at blandford for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#15
mollzers said:
johnboy401 said:
WILL IVE JUST FINISED A COURSE ATBLANDFORD AS A RE-TRADE ITS NOT JUST THE UP GRADERS WHAT GET IT I WAS CLASSED AS PHASE 3 AS I CAME FROM A WORKING UNIT BUT I WAS IN PHASE 2 ACCOM BUT WHEN I WAS OUT I WASNT ALOUD TO GO OUT THE CAMP WITH ANY PHASE 2 OR DRINK WITH THEM THAT MENT I COUL NOT DRINK WITH MY COURSE SO ONE NIGHT I WENT DOWN TOWN WITH A COUPLE OF THEM THEN WHEN I GOT BACK I GOT DONE OVER BY THE PROVO STAFF AND WHATS GOING OPN PHASE 3 NEED SOME WHERE TO DRINK APART FROM THE BOWLING ALIE
looks like you have just Re-traded from liney to storeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you were probably only at blandford for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah this guy would give storemen a bad name. i've met a few storemen and they tended to have the hand eye co-ordination to work a keyboard. The only royal signals trade i can think of to allow this level of stupidity is surely officer. :p :p
 
#16
have we missed something ?? have they brought back combat siggies ???as this guy is displaying some very familiar traits !!..
 
#17
Surely that would be an insult to combat siggies.
 
#19
what about those w@nkers on the main gate ??? do you still have mpgs at blandford ??? sure hes not one of those ?
 
#20
threesend said:
what about those w@nkers on the main gate ??? do you still have mpgs at blandford ??? sure hes not one of those ?
I hope not, I really wouldn't trust this guy with a weapon.
 

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