ATR Winchester Kit list

#1
Got my Joining instuctions on monday here is the kit list

Documents

National Health Card
National Insurance Card
P45 (If Held)
Marriage Certificate (if applicable)
Your Birth Certificate
Birth Certificate of Children (if applicable)
Any Legal Orders (relating to divorce, custody, change of name Etc)
Driving Licence (if held)
Passport (if held)
Photographs (4 up to date passport size photographs of yourself - No Beards or Hats
Any Qualification Certificates
Bank Account Details (if you do not have a bank account you must open one before reporting note the account must have a sorting code)
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Clothing amd eqipment

A complete toiletries kit (including a wet razor, nail scissors and a soap dish, and spare toiletries)
Sewing Kit (including black thread and safety pins)
2 Large Towels
Civilian clothes (Smart trousers, Shoes, Shirt and Tie Afco said if you have a suit take that)
Outdoor Clothing (Warm & Waterproof)
Swimwear (Trunks or swiming shorts)
Flip Flops/Shower shoes
Underwear (Sufficient for 7 days)
Sports underwear
Handkerchiefs
Nightwear (Remember you will be sharing a room with others)

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Additional Useful items

2xBoot Brushes
A Big tin of black polish (Kiwi is recomended)
Training shoes (Warn in and not brand new)
Home Stationery (Letter writing paper, envelopes, stamps and pen)
Wrist watch
Alarm Clock
4xStrong Padlocks
Small torch with batteries
Personal possessions (photos of Family.)
 
#3
chris87 said:
Got my Joining instuctions on monday here is the kit list

Underwear (Sufficient for 7 days)
Sports underwear

Handkerchiefs

Nightwear (Remember you will be sharing a room with others)
No indication of how often you need to change handkerchiefs or sports underwear? Is laundry limited under basic?
 
#5
Don't forget a stash of money and your escape and evasion map.

Week 2..suffer lower limb injury during endurance PT ( a jog to the trained soldiers)

week 3.. Transfer to the shagging, drinking and insubordination platoon Sorry I meant rehab platoon ( still 15 Pl to me or Fox Pl )

Week 4..take 3 weeks of sick leave at home on full pay ( allowing lots of time to get disillusioned about the Army, whilst at the same time telling all the local chavettes how many rag heads you slotted in the sand box)

Week 7.. Return to winchester just in time to submit your DAOR papers and fcuk off back to chavsville.

Allow 3 weeks of hangover then attempt to sue the MOD for loss of earnings ( and win no doubt ) because you haven't been in long enough to get a real injury ( which the MOD don't pay out for...wnakers)

I don't think i missed anything ........or did I ?

Medders out
 
#6
blue_sophist said:
chris87 said:
Got my Joining instuctions on monday here is the kit list

Underwear (Sufficient for 7 days)
Sports underwear

Handkerchiefs

Nightwear (Remember you will be sharing a room with others)
No indication of how often you need to change handkerchiefs or sports underwear? Is laundry limited under basic?
Depends how often the useless b'stard who runs the laundry can be bothered to open. (assuming its still the same person)
 
#9
blue_sophist said:
chris87 said:
Got my Joining instuctions on monday here is the kit list

Underwear (Sufficient for 7 days)
Sports underwear

Handkerchiefs

Nightwear (Remember you will be sharing a room with others)
No indication of how often you need to change handkerchiefs or sports underwear? Is laundry limited under basic?
Laundry is not limited. Basically drop your stuff in with the staff, get a ticket, and collect the following day. It is not the best laundry in the world and therefore I woudl not take your designer stuff but it serves the purpose.
 
#10
A laundry?? I had to fecking handwash all my kit when I went through basic training.

(back in the day etc etc)
 
#11
the_matelot said:
A laundry?? I had to fecking handwash all my kit when I went through basic training.
(back in the day etc etc)
Thanks for that ... had me a bit baffled! Are we saying that U/T Squaddies get laundry service? Good Chr*st ... whatever next?
 
#12
blue_sophist said:
the_matelot said:
A laundry?? I had to fecking handwash all my kit when I went through basic training.
(back in the day etc etc)
Thanks for that ... had me a bit baffled! Are we saying that U/T Squaddies get laundry service? Good Chr*st ... whatever next?
As opposed to crabs who don't actually bother doing any sort of basic training. Why bother? They're just civvies in a crympolene and polyester uniform. ;)
 
#13
The Lord Flasheart said:
blue_sophist said:
the_matelot said:
A laundry?? I had to fecking handwash all my kit when I went through basic training.
(back in the day etc etc)
Thanks for that ... had me a bit baffled! Are we saying that U/T Squaddies get laundry service? Good Chr*st ... whatever next?
As opposed to crabs who don't actually bother doing any sort of basic training. Why bother? They're just civvies in a crympolene and polyester uniform. ;)
You can't sew Dragon badges on crimplene without extensive training, pal.

And all that running around ... looks like panic anyway. Stroll from A to B, or get a spare chopper driver to take you where you want to go. They have cupboards full of old but serviceable ones waiting for a purpose .. :yawnstretch:
 
#14
blue_sophist said:
the_matelot said:
A laundry?? I had to fecking handwash all my kit when I went through basic training.
(back in the day etc etc)
Thanks for that ... had me a bit baffled! Are we saying that U/T Squaddies get laundry service? Good Chr*st ... whatever next?
Ok, so what is the value handwashing kit when recruits, and more importantly instructors, are busy enough as it is. By all means if we are saying the ability to handwash kit is more important than fitness, shooting, first aid etc then may be we need to look again at CMS(R) but I suspect the current system is prob best for the times.

However, we used to fight battles wearing red tunics and forming squares! ... perhaps we shoudl be doing that too!
 
#15
I thought it fell under the general heading of "Personal Admin" and getting a sense of responsibility for self and equipment. Laundry service seems to reinforce the idea of "someone else will sort it out for me".

However, I agree that training time is precious. So when do they get taught to look after themselves?
 
#16
blue_sophist said:
... I agree that training time is precious. So when do they get taught to look after themselves?
The change to a 14 wk course from 12 wk has given slightly more time for admin, which is used to teach the recruits some of the very basics of looking after yourself but as with everything the course expands to fill the time available.

I fear some of the guys coming to ATR Winchester, and their parents, will take offence at this but sadly a growing number of recruits struggle with basic admin and do need to be shown how to wash and shave properly. (However this is not a blanket statement and it is clear many come with a good grounding).

Intrestingly In Barracks Admin (washing, shaving etc) is not a Training Objective and so there is no time in the program allocated to it. Hence NCOs teach this stuff from about 1800 hrs until about 2030 hrs and then supervise the recruits until 2200 hrs when they should leave them until 0600 hrs the following day.
 
#17
Modfather said:
blue_sophist said:
... I agree that training time is precious. So when do they get taught to look after themselves?
The change to a 14 wk course from 12 wk has given slightly more time for admin, which is used to teach the recruits some of the very basics of looking after yourself but as with everything the course expands to fill the time available.

I fear some of the guys coming to ATR Winchester, and their parents, will take offence at this but sadly a growing number of recruits struggle with basic admin and do need to be shown how to wash and shave properly. (However this is not a blanket statement and it is clear many come with a good grounding).

Intrestingly In Barracks Admin (washing, shaving etc) is not a Training Objective and so there is no time in the program allocated to it. Hence NCOs teach this stuff from about 1800 hrs until about 2030 hrs and then supervise the recruits until 2200 hrs when they should leave them until 0600 hrs the following day.
Exactly my point ... a sad reflection on today's society [if it can be so called].
 

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