ATR Lichfield

#4
okay...you'll have issued kit already but expect to get some more...take a big hold-all...take all your kit

take allot of PT kit

take stuff to make you comfortable - mini radio,computer DVD, sweets etc... TAKE A PADLOCK because theaving gippos are everywhere on ATRs

take an iron...and maybe an ironing board...you'll have lots of inspections...maybe take some soap powder to hand wash dirty kit?

try to have clean Barracks clothing (smart and ironed stuff whilst in camp) and 'field' clothing for running about in woods etc..(or whatever AGC do)

take civvies for the Naafi bar (if you're able to go)...lots of paper and files for notes etc (in classroom and in the field conditions)

Prepare to go into the 'field' - so waterproof your kit ...you'll poss. be out in the ulu for 2-3 days!

Most importantly, take a car to escape on weekend leave!...it doubles up as a giant locker too

good luck
 
#6
Ah ATR Lichfield! Take cleaning things with you, standard polish, dusters, jay-cloths etc makes life a whole lot easier when sorting out accomodation. Don't let them out of your section mind as they probably won't come back.

A lot of things will be based on what your training team is like. Read the JI's, and get genned up on everything you need to know. Don't argue with/answer back to the DS, you'd be surprised how many people do. Saying that don't be afraid of them either, they're professionals doing a job, if you've got problems use the chain of command and everyone will be happy.

You'll probably hit 'The Quarry' on one of your plentiful PT sessions, and there's some fun running routes. Try your hardest, and don't start walking - keep moving, impresses the socks off the DS and avoids a beasting, start monging it and you'll be binned.

Meat Feast Pizza's from NAAFI are to be recommened.

Field ex is fine, probably chilly this time of year but just listen to your DS and folks at your unit. Best and only real advice I had from my mob was 'Don't fail'.

Padlocks -take a few, and if you have a car then take that, the locker needs to be kept in a prescribed order - anything else should be hidden away in bags/car/wherever and locked up.
 
#7
thanks for all the advice guys, in other words, take absolutely everything you can think of, keep your head screwed on and work hard! Scary stuff!
Jimbleep, when are you going there, me - in November, dont mind cold, just want to get on with it.
Locker/room inspections theyre ok, im always the one to motivate the others in the dorm.
Cant wait, but just think not to dread it but to look forward to it! Positive frame of mind and all that!
 
#10
ATR Lichfield, what a joy! The quarry, two steps forward one backward from what I remember..
The accomodation was a bit naff but so are all ATR's. Remember seeing a hovel of a farmhouse from my barrack room that was easier to see with a SUSAT!

If you are lucky, you might, just might get one of the new barrack blocks that the RAMC were given when I was there in 93. There are no local amenities nearby and lots of dull depressing countryside to run round.

Two weeks, a holiday compared with several months!
 
#14
mercgirl said:
Will be going mid-November.
Anyone else attending or can give any more further advice (happy memories!).
I've been given the same advice as someone else gave above - "Do as you're told, don't talk back and it's easy". No matter how much I ask I don't get told much else though.

My fitness is my only concern but I'm fitter than many recruits so I think I'll be Ok.
 
#15
Like you l-t-w my fitness, as with most people I suspect is my main concern.
Do press ups, sit ups, and runs (on heathland and concrete). Its so difficult I find to motivate by
yourself. Dont actually know how good or bad I am doing. But then on TAFS 1 I was fitter than
the other female recruits, but then you dont know what standard others will be on TAFS 2, or what
is to be expected. That is what I would like to know, what is to be expected on the fitness side of it.
 
#16
mercgirl said:
Like you l-t-w my fitness, as with most people I suspect is my main concern.
Do press ups, sit ups, and runs (on heathland and concrete). Its so difficult I find to motivate by
yourself. Dont actually know how good or bad I am doing. But then on TAFS 1 I was fitter than
the other female recruits, but then you dont know what standard others will be on TAFS 2, or what
is to be expected. That is what I would like to know, what is to be expected on the fitness side of it.
I'm doing plenty of pushups etc. (Perhaps too many, I need to slack off a bit before ATR to give my boody a chance to recover) I should be OK on the BPFA and the CFT it's later on I'm worried about. *Apparently* if you start flagging at all they can kick you off the course and if we're pushed as hard every day as we were on our second TAFS weekend I don't think I could sustain that for a full 15 days.

In terms of what's expected at the start here's what I've managed to piece together after a lot of questioning...

For the BPFA, it's the 1.5 mile 13:30/13:45 run, (I've seen 13:30 in most places but some older Joining Instructions I've seen say 13:45) which everyone knows about. (I can do 10:30 on a good day but if I'm not on tip-top form 11:30 is more usual) The figures for the pushups/situps are harder to come by but it appears to be a minimum of 33 pushups and 37 situps for an amber and 44/50 for green. Of course, if you've just had a morning of being run about it's going to be harder going so I'm still working on it even though I can manage a pass on the pushups when I'm not tired.

CFT is 4 miles in 1 hour, but it appears that you have a PTI leading to keep at the right pace and you march in a group so it's just a case of not dropping out. Not really any way I can practice that (Can hardly go out walking in full army gear!) but I can run 3 miles in <30 mins (Obviously that's not in full gear) so I don't think I'll have too much of a problem with endurance.
 
#17
Sounds like we'll be on the same course. Am dreading the fitness side of things, like you, I'm having issues with motivation, especially fitting extra fitness training around work.
 
#18
mercgirl - glad to see you stuck at it and made it through TAFS1 (almost as impressive as making it through your first 40 odd posts on ARRSE :lol:)

Keep at the fitness - if you're fit, everything else is a breeze. Don't forget to pack the sense of humour, even if you don't need it yourself, others will need your support.
 
#19
looktowindward said:
CFT is 4 miles in 1 hour, but it appears that you have a PTI leading to keep at the right pace and you march in a group so it's just a case of not dropping out. Not really any way I can practice that (Can hardly go out walking in full army gear!) but I can run 3 miles in <30 mins (Obviously that's not in full gear) so I don't think I'll have too much of a problem with endurance.
CFT is a mental test (strange a sit sounds). I've seen countless recruits get themselves all worked up about it for no good reason. It's only 4 miles walking a bit faster than if you had the dog with you.

You can train for this very easily with a civvy bergan but resist the tempatation to load it with stupid weight, you don't need to. If you don't have/can't afford/won't otherwise need a civvy bergan, most Outdoor Shops now sell large size waterproof covers in a variety of colours (some truly bogging awful and appropriate for any members of this site) which you can disguise the army one with.
 
#20
abacus said:
CFT is a mental test (strange a sit sounds). I've seen countless recruits get themselves all worked up about it for no good reason. It's only 4 miles walking a bit faster than if you had the dog with you.
I'm quite reassured by that comment - I have to admit I couldn't *quite* see why the CFT is a problem at all... it's no worse than wondering round the zoo for a couple of hours carrying a 2 year old and with a changing bag on your back! :) I'd started thinking it was going to involve something pretty hard, like crossing a muddy river or something...
 

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