ASTER missile cuts the mustard.

#2
i thought you actually meant we'd sold of the fins to be used as cutlery.
 
#3
Well we always knew they worked very well at shooting down missiles, it's their raison d'etre lets be frank (see what I did there, with the french etc etc.... heh)

As we've discussed it's thir usefulness in surface engagement role, for ships without Harpoon that should be questioned.
 
#4
One presumes that the enemy ships are (anti shp) missile armed - so if you splash their missiles.....

BTW What happened to the Harpoon and Goalkeeper systems from the T22s?
 
#5
Shoot the archer not the arrow... as I believe the term goes. No idea where they went although what we'll do with 4 x Goalkeeper, excellent as they are... drop them onto QE or PoW? Although I thought that they were supposed to be cutting about with 4x Phalanxes (well. fitted for but not with)
 
#6
Even the 23's are now increasingly fitted for but not with Harpoon.

The Goalkeers? Bay Class perhaps? The cloggie ones have one apiece up front.
 
#7
That would make a lot of sense, although it would mean that each Bay needs a full time RN party.
 
#9
Can't we fit goalkeepers to the boats full time?

PS, what capability has the likes of Goalkeeper got against surface targets?
 
#12
Well, they already get an ad hoc Phalanx mount when going off anywhere interesting.
I never knew that - although that does seem sensible. But isn't there a difference here in that Phalanx is basically just bolted to the deck and is fairly easy to install?

Could a CIWS system be fitted to a smaller vessel such as a Minehunter, or do constraints due to size, weight, manning requirements, and presumably being magnetic make this impossible?

chocolate frog said:
PS, what capability has the likes of Goalkeeper got against surface targets?
Don't know about Goalkeeper, but the upgraded Phalanx can be used in a surface mode (operated manually and with an added IR sensor).
 
#13
Well we always knew they worked very well at shooting down missiles, it's their raison d'etre lets be frank (see what I did there, with the french etc etc.... heh)

As we've discussed it's thir usefulness in surface engagement role, for ships without Harpoon that should be questioned.
Could we not get around this problem by, say, fitting the ships with Harpoon?
 
#15
Could we not get around this problem by, say, fitting the ships with Harpoon?
Ultimately, Harpoon is subsonic and gun based CIWS can take it. The 'approved' way of f**king people up these days is to fire one of your BFO SAM's doing M4+ at them.
 
#16
I wonder how effective our current anti-missile defences will be against an anti-ship missile that plunges into the sea near the target and becomes a supercavitating torpedo.
 
#17
I wonder how effective our current anti-missile defences will be against an anti-ship missile that plunges into the sea near the target and becomes a supercavitating torpedo.
Perfectly reasonable
Aster will hopefully have splashed your supersonic airbourne torpedo 15 miles or more before it takes a dive under the waves.
 
#18
What about an conventional or solid RV from a ballistic missile?
 
#19
Perfectly reasonable
Aster will hopefully have splashed your supersonic airbourne torpedo 15 miles or more before it takes a dive under the waves.
If the supersonic/supercavitating ASM designers are clever they would design the sensors on the missile to pick up an undisguisable burst of IR consistent with a missile launch, and let the missile assume countermeasure anti-missile missiles have been launched. The evasive response of the ASM can then be to dive underwater.

No reason why the dive position of the ASM should be set in stone.
 
#20
If the supersonic/supercavitating ASM designers are clever they would design the sensors on the missile to pick up an undisguisable burst of IR consistent with a missile launch, and let the missile assume countermeasure anti-missile missiles have been launched. The evasive response of the ASM can then be to dive underwater.

No reason why the dive position of the ASM should be set in stone.
If Sampson has picked up your flying torpedo before it drops into the sea then where is the advantage?
At that point it just becomes a torpedo with the defender already being aware of its approach

Thats if you can design a torpedo that will still function when it hits the waves at a 1000mph (or whatever figure you choose)
 

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