Nige said:Now I'm here in Aus, I have seen another dimension to the Tiff/Artisan thing.
We (RAEME) don't have the divide. Once you are Sergeant, in order to become a WO (No SSgts either) you attend promotion courses (similar to CLM) one of the RAEME specific courses is called Subject 4. Once you complete this you are an Artificer. Simple.
No PAAB, ASCLB or 18 months out of the field force (Course is 3 months I believe).
The Artificer isn't then just left to run the fitter section, he is also the Logistic Troop commander, so he looks after the SQMS element too. He often fills in as Acting SSM too if required.
Oh, and not many graphs are produced either, there's bloody work to be done.
Having been a Tiff in UK and seen the Tiffy here, I am more than impressed with the standards.
Maybe REME could learn a thing or two from it's little brother...
Mig_Mag_Tig_Tag_Arc_Gas said:Artisan v Artificer, an age old argument that I dont care to be involved in, however as being from the REAL blackhand trade I thought I would enter this little quote from the dictionary.
Noun, a skilled worker who makes things by hand.
Derivatives artisanal adjective.
Origin - French, from the Latin artire ' INSTRUCT IN THE ARTS'.