Artillery Command Systems

Discussion in 'Gunners' started by gc22, Jul 29, 2008.

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  1. Im thinking of joining the ACS i was wondering if anybody couold give me anymore information about it.
     
  2. Don't do it!!!! Radio stag from hell!!
     
  3. What do u mean???
     
  4. What do you want to know?

    Artillery Command Systems is a trade qualification. You will do courses that are communications centric. you can serve in any RA Regiment with the qualification, as opposed to if you wanted to be an Air Defence Gunner or an AS90 Gunner or Light Gun Gunner.

    Other trades are Strike (Guns), Logistics, Targetting (OPs), MT etc.
     
  5. I would like to know what i would be doing after i have finished my training.
     
  6. Assuming you are not (yet) at Phase 1, here's how it works:

    Go to phase 1 (pirbright probably).

    At Ph1, choose an Artillery Regiment to go to - as I mentioned above, all RA regiments have ACS slots.

    Get given a Regiment - hopefully the one you have chosen, maybe not, depends on vacancies, needs of the Regiments (they may have an op tour coming up etc).

    Finish Ph1 and go to Larkhill to do Phase 2 training - your trade training. Now at RA Phase 2, everyone does a general course. This covers driving and signals/ACS stuff. you will complete Phase 2 with a L1 Gunner qualification, with ACS listed as your trade branch (as opposed to strike for guns, or MT, or logistics, or Air Defence, or Locating for Radar etc).

    Go to the Regiment you were told of at Ph1. you will then do your level 2 qualification - for you, as an ACS wannabe, you will do Level 2 ACS. Day to day, depending on the Regiment you will do ACS stuff - on exercise and on operations you will do "signalling". In a gun regiment you will probably work in the Command Post on the Gun position - the info from the OPs (Observation Posts) comes to the command post and is given to the guns to fire on the target. You as ACS qulified bloke will be on a radio in there speaking to the guns or the OPs. You may get put into one of the Regiment's higher command posts, like the FSC, but it is much the same job.

    If not on exercise, on ops or not doing your level 2 course (which you'll do quite soon after arrival), there will be mainetnance on equipment, vehicles, physical training to do, etc etc.

    Is that enough info, or is there anything more you need to know. I have tried to give the basic idea, but if any of it sounds like gobbledygook then ask!
     
  7. I think that covers everything so will always be in a command post then???
     
  8. It depends on what you want to do. We accepted ACS trained guys (and a girl) into the OPs when we raised the Tac Gp Bty, because we didn't have enough OP trained bods within the Regiment. They knew how to signal (part of OP drills) and we taught them the OP side once they were in. The transition was fairly smooth.

    If you are choosing ACS as your trade though, you should expect to do it as your job and most ACS within a gun regiment (AS90 or Light Gun) is with a command post of some sort.
     
  9. Not neccesarily now as you have to complete communicator RA parts 1 and 2 (part 2 of which is split into 2 trade streams either CPs or OPs) you could work for either. State your preference when you get to your unit if your fit and keen go on the OPs if you want a more relaxed (lazy) lifestyle go and be a shiney arse on the CPs. You will probably find that the CoC will evaluate your potential and make a decision for you.
     
  10. I am hoping to join the British Army in the Artillery Command Systems. I was wondering if I will be taught to design and maintain computer networks. I also want to know if I can do CCNA and Microsoft courses which will help me do my job in a better way.

    The Royal Artillery website mentions the following message for the ACS job: "GUNNER Artillery Command Systems (ACS) - Operate and maintain the latest high tech computer and radio equipment to ensure that voice and data messages are passed across the battlefield. ACS is used in every Royal Artillery Regiment.

    REMEMBER - No Comms - No Bombs!"

    To sum it up all, I want to know if I will be taught to create, maintain and troubleshoot computer networks apart from other duties. I understand that in the Royal Signals they teach it to those going as Systems Engineer but I am not eligible to go for the Royal Signals so from my research, ACS in the RA was the only job which was close to computer networking.

    Please advice.

    Thanks
     
  11. In a word

    No

    Thats Royal Signals, the "Computer Systems" they talk about are not what you are thinking of, there are some jobs which will involve Computers but on the whole thats not the job you would be doing if you follow the ACS stream

    If you want to become a network guy then join the Royal Signals
     
  12. Zero network stuff as a new in ACS Gunner - I have guys working for me that know about networks, but it is high level stuff and self-taught/studied in their own time.
     
  13. I wanted to know if I will get to work on computers, computer networks and take up professional courses from Cisco and Microsoft. I am passionate about IT and stuff. My original job choice was Systems Engineer in Royal Signals but being a commonwealth citizen, I need to be resident in UK for 3 years which I am not so ACS was the closest I could get similar type of job. But please do tell me if there are other job which are similar to Systems Engineer. Some of them I have come across are Military Communication Engineer (RE), Driver/Communication Specialist (RLC).
     
  14. anything in the army with communicator in its job title (like the RLC one you listed) is probably going to be a person trained in using a radio, NOT network comms. As stated above, computer network stuff is done by the Royal Signals and in itself is a fairly specialised role. Your best chance of getting IT qualifications is to be a signaller and take them in your own time. you could then look to apply for a trials job in something like what used to be the BOWTATs (Bowman Trials teams). these teams would use qualified soldiers to attend trials in all sorts of areas. As you say, having to do 3 years in the UK before you can apply to do certain jobs is frustrating, but a fact of life to do with the content taught on the courses (security classification).
     
  15. The only people that do the sort of things you are talking about are the Royal Signals or TCW if you went RAF