Article about the Det and their beginnings

Euclid

War Hero
Civilian cars purchased on the mainland, processed through an RAOC Vehicle Depot for various reasons, (none of which will be aired on here), allocated NI License Plate numbers and sent to the Province. The same process for ALL civilian cars used for covert purposes in the Province. Although only the Det and other organisations vehicles got the more specialised treatment.

Many twats users thought that having long hair and a beard made them something out of James Bond. It didn't. And I'm not talking about the Det. Let me give you an example. The fecking IO of 40 Cdo RM in BBK circa 1985.

These things I know, because having done a job with long hair, I was then posted to the MoD as the Equipment Manager for these assets.
40 Cdo did S.Armagh in 1983.
 
The driver on that fateful contact in Twinbrook, was a County Tyrone lad, Ted Stuart who was a Royal Engineer. RIP.
I only learned that a short while ago and the woman soldier who survived was from Coleraine. I didn't know they were locals, although if I had given it any thought I would have realised they couldn't have used English soldiers in such an environment.
 
I only learned that a short while ago and the woman soldier who survived was from Coleraine. I didn't know they were locals, although if I had given it any thought I would have realised they couldn't have used English soldiers in such an environment.
She was awarded the Military Medal. I don't think they ever named her for obvious reasons.
 
I only learned that a short while ago and the woman soldier who survived was from Coleraine. I didn't know they were locals, although if I had given it any thought I would have realised they couldn't have used English soldiers in such an environment.
I always saw British soldiers as just that, British soldiers. It didn't matter where they came from, including the Irish Republic.
 
Which is why we never bought any.

Edited to add. Apart from Det vehicles and a couple of specials, ALL covert vehicles were issued by the Fleet Manager HQNI. But as a policy unless special requested by HQNI no Land Rover variants were purchased.

a. Because of the bleeding obvious.
b. They were more expensive to buy.
c. Maintenance was problematic in that spares had to be locally procured. Also expensive.

As an aside, vehicle types were monitored against the Province vehicle population types and procured accordingly.
Re your last comment there - Datsun Bluebirds didn’t seem to be!
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She was awarded the Military Medal. I don't think they ever named her for obvious reasons.
Sarah Jane W. She has been since named in specific publications.
 
He was, as I recall, one of the better unit IOs I had to deal with, although usually, the AIOs were more grounded; Tac Int 40 Cdo were brilliant. What did he do to you?
Phoned me direct as LE(A) to explain how important his job was and that he needed a bigger car. I asked him if he was in the Int Office in BBK. He was. I told him to go to the WIS office and ask them to confirm what I was about to say to him. Which was **** Off.
 
Re your last comment there - Datsun Bluebirds didn’t seem to be!
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A snapshot in time. The average age of the vehicles in the Province was probably 5years old after the MoD purchase. Replacement vehicles were purchased over the financial years at an agreed rate with the NI Fleet Manager. But out purchasing locations ( 2or 3) were limited both by security considerations and MoD Contracts Branch. If they didn't have a particular model or colour then what was available was what was purchased. The system certainly wasn't foolproof and was subject to the same budgetary restraints as other MoD contracts.
 
A snapshot in time. The average age of the vehicles in the Province was probably 5years old after the MoD purchase. Replacement vehicles were purchased over the financial years at an agreed rate with the NI Fleet Manager. But out purchasing locations ( 2or 3) were limited both by security considerations and MoD Contracts Branch. If they didn't have a particular model or colour then what was available was what was purchased. The system certainly wasn't foolproof and was subject to the same budgetary restraints as other MoD contracts.
1984-86 to be precise. CATO was always badgering me for an XJ12, sadly the Fleet Manager wouldn’t run to that but did stump up for a 5 Series beemer and a Mazda for us!
 
Phoned me direct as LE(A) to explain how important his job was and that he needed a bigger car. I asked him if he was in the Int Office in BBK. He was. I told him to go to the WIS office and ask them to confirm what I was about to say to him. Which was **** Off.
I hear you, man. However, I had similar problems (which your office may have considered decadent and corrupt). As a FINCO I was handed a small car by the gits at 12 Coy MT which was wholly unsuitable, and had to complain loud and long for a large saloon (which I eventually got), You try taking four comfortably-sized RUC Inspectors/IOs to a fatboy lunch in a Chevette.
 
I hear you, man. However, I had similar problems (which your office may have considered decadent and corrupt). As a FINCO I was handed a small car by the gits at 12 Coy MT which was wholly unsuitable, and had to complain loud and long for a large saloon (which I eventually got), You try taking four comfortably-sized RUC Inspectors/IOs to a fatboy lunch in a Chevette.
Talking about cars and RUC, what was it with the pale green or pale blue Cortinas carrying four large gents in car coats?
 

exspy

LE
As an FYI, and according to British Army from 1945, the following RM Commandos served in Northern Ireland during the 80's. Interesting that no tour overlapped with another, meaning that only one Commando was ever in Northern Ireland at one time.

40 Commando (Seaton Barracks then Norton Manor Camp)
Mar 79 - Mar 80 Shackleton Barracks, Ballykelly (Resident Bn)
Jan - Jun 83 Northern Ireland Bessbrook
Jan - Jun 88 Northern Ireland Armagh

41 Commando (Deal)
Jun - Oct 80 Northern Ireland Bessbrook

42 Commando (Bickleigh)
Jul - Nov 84 Northern Ireland Bessbrook
May - Jul 87 Northern Ireland Spearhead Bn
Jun - Oct 89 Northern Ireland Belfast Roulement Bn

45 Commando (Arbroath)
Jul - Nov 81 Northern Ireland Belfast (Springfield / Falls)
Jul - Nov 86 Northern Ireland Belfast Roulement Bn
 

Euclid

War Hero
Just checked my logbook and RM doesn’t appear during 85/86 starting from Jan 85 the units are

2PARA
1KOSB
3RRF
1BW
1 RAnglian
1SG

Edit: Just checked an older logbook, 42Cdo were there back end of ‘84, handed over to 2PARA.
Yep - took over from the Staffords June 1984. 1D&D resident in Ballykinler so normally several of their platoons on the ground in the TAOR opcon to the roulement battalion as well.
 
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