Arthur Labinjo-Hughes - How do we stop child abuse / neglect in the UK?

How do we stop child abuse / neglect in the UK?

  • Stop foreign aid spend, put the money back into UK education, health, social services, etc

    Votes: 65 69.1%
  • Anyone wanting to be a parent needs to pass a mandatory training and education course in parenting

    Votes: 38 40.4%
  • People with drug / alcohol addictions are prohibited from having a child

    Votes: 60 63.8%
  • People with criminal records of 'high tariff' crimes are prohibited from having a child

    Votes: 37 39.4%
  • Raise taxes to increase spend to education, health, social services, etc

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • A mentor for every child - every child has a mentor until they are 18 as a point of support etc

    Votes: 9 9.6%

  • Total voters
    94

enpointe

Old-Salt
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I had a very good friend who had his driving licence removed for 12 months because he admitted to the doctor that he drank 2 pints per night in the local pub, as this put him over the daily recommended units the doctor diagnosed him as a habitual alcoholic and informed the DVLA.

What they wont target are the scum in the barrel.
bullshit
 

enpointe

Old-Salt
for those claiming Capital Punsihment is effective , don;t forget one of the main advocates of the Death Penalty id the fascist regimes in the US states under the mis rule of the GOPping MAGAts

 
for those claiming Capital Punsihment is effective , don;t forget one of the main advocates of the Death Penalty id the fascist regimes in the US states under the mis rule of the GOPping MAGAts


What the **** has that got to do with the UK?
 

Bordon/hants

War Hero
Can any man kill/execute/eliminate with extreme prejudice whilst retaining their sanity.
There is a very fine line that should never be discussed or debated

Alcohol helps it isn’t the cure

SP/NO
I think from reading about various cases over the years, It depends on how the killer views their victims, if it's an ideological or revenge thing, then they justify it as "deserved" and have no issues.

Many live long untroubled happy lives.

Others go bonkers like that WW2 Russki NKVD top killer who used to have a case full of Mausers and a leather apron, and neck shot 300 people a night for 28 days running (7000 people in total), but he was later demoted and an heavy drinker later in his life.

All his team ran on Vodka like the SS and groups operating on the Eastern Front, others were not bothered as saw it as a holy war.....After Oradour was made a big fuss of, other SS officers were said have expressed suprise at it all, saying "It was perfectly normal in our circles" and they had zero problems or effects on them.

Who knows though in moments of reflection, I have read over and over that people are not worried, even our guys say in Bomber command, some felt sorry as they saw cities burn, others really hated the enemy and had zero empathy.

 

Proff3RTR

War Hero
Can any man kill/execute/eliminate with extreme prejudice whilst retaining their sanity.
There is a very fine line that should never be discussed or debated

Alcohol helps it isn’t the cure

SP/NO
Good point, but I would put forward the following.

If the case is explained to the executioner such as we have here, I would submit most would have no qualms about pulling the lever or pushing the button and would sleep quite peacefully that night knowing they have done society a very big favour and rid the planet of an absolute beast.

That is of course just my POV, I would not have any worries in ending a child abuser/killers life if found guilty and sentenced by due process.
 
Stops guilty people being found guilty too because jurors don't want blood on their hands?

A good point but there could be an answer to that.
Since it was abolished 1965 ? the world has changed greatly eg gene sequencing, cameras everywhere.
If the requirements for a Death Sentence was upped to absolutely incontrovercial - a juror could not argue black is white - just because they are morally against it.

An example would be that vermin Adiboloja or whatever his name is - cut off the soldiers head on a London street with many witnesses.

I know it wont act as a future deterrent - but some crimes are so heinous, cause such revulsion - I don't want to breath the same air as that individual.
And I believe in an eye for an eye etc.
 
A good point but there could be an answer to that.
Since it was abolished 1965 ? the world has changed greatly eg gene sequencing, cameras everywhere.
If the requirements for a Death Sentence was upped to absolutely incontrovercial - a juror could not argue black is white - just because they are morally against it.

An example would be that vermin Adiboloja or whatever his name is - cut off the soldiers head on a London street with many witnesses.

I know it wont act as a future deterrent - but some crimes are so heinous, cause such revulsion - I don't want to breath the same air as that individual.
And I believe in an eye for an eye etc.
Jurors don't have to argue/justify their decision. They can simply keep saying "not guilty" if they feel that strongly about the DP. So you'd either have to sift out "conscious objectors" or the Judge would have to let majority verdicts be used
 
Jurors don't have to argue/justify their decision. They can simply keep saying "not guilty" if they feel that strongly about the DP. So you'd either have to sift out "conscious objectors" or the Judge would have to let majority verdicts be used

Yes, all that - but it is do- able if sufficient will was there.
 

No, no. The inmates need to perfect the art of death by a thousand cuts or similar. She needs to feel pain and abuse inflicted on her miserable body for years to come.
Karma, you evil bitch.
I can’t believe this image, taken a matter of weeks before poor Arthur was murdered. The scum took a selfie relaxing in a hot tub, whilst the poor mite was sweltering indoors on his ‘naughty step’. Evil doesn’t begin to cover this pair.
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I beleive that there are one or two arrsers who are prison officers, it would be lovely if they could let us know from time to time how other prisoners are reacting to this evil, sadistic pieces of slime.
If I remember correctly child abusers got a lot of stick, this pair should get the full works and hopefully after suffering the hell they gave yhis poor child, (the video of him, weak from poison & abuse, saying "nobody loves me", made me weep) for months be slowly & painfully killed!!
So any PO's out there, keep us informed on what the latest is, without endangering your jobs obviously!!
 

Proff3RTR

War Hero
Jurors don't have to argue/justify their decision. They can simply keep saying "not guilty" if they feel that strongly about the DP. So you'd either have to sift out "conscious objectors" or the Judge would have to let majority verdicts be used
Or if the evidence contradicts the jury if they can clearly not give the death sentence, even if all the evidence say it should be passed the judge should be able to over ride on legal reasons.
 

endure

GCM
Or if the evidence contradicts the jury if they can clearly not give the death sentence, even if all the evidence say it should be passed the judge should be able to over ride on legal reasons.
You might as well not have juries then. Is that what you want?
 
Didn't someone come up with something along the lines that the best form of government is benign dictatorship tempered with assassination to maintain focus?

Could be a place for it here. Don't perform to spec, let things get away from you and you'll need to be bloody careful flushing the bog or brushing your teeth. Currently there seems to be a system of sideways shuffling and lavish reward for piss poor performance.


See this for a prime example ... Singapore Leads the Good Life Under a Benevolent Dictator
snip "Singapore has achieved the American dream, but not in the American way. It is a prosperous, clean city, with imposing skyscrapers and glittering shopping centers. The multinational corporations of the world are welcome here; you can buy any brand name you’ve ever heard of. The highways are lined with tropical flowers and crowded with BMWs. And at the head of this thriving free-market state is a clever, socialist dictator.
Just forty years ago Singapore was a war-battered British port on an island off the southern tip of Malaysia. It had a rapidly growing, poor, uneducated population living mostly in slums and houseboats. Singapore struggled along until 1965, when it became an independent nation with Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew in firm control.
In the next twenty years Singapore’s economy grew eightfold. Average income per capita rose more than fourfold. The percentage of families living in poverty dropped to 0.3% (in the U.S. it is near 20%). Singaporeans’ average life expectancy is now 71 years. No one is homeless. Population has stabilized. Virtually everyone has a job. The place runs like a Swiss watch."
 
for those claiming Capital Punsihment is effective , don;t forget one of the main advocates of the Death Penalty id the fascist regimes in the US states under the mis rule of the GOPping MAGAts



Who is this creature "enpointe" is it some form of "septic" snowflake or just something like "BB" or the "deluded crustacean" whose totally irrelevant posts are just wind ups or is it someone who is good with colours ...

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given that the US has never abandoned the Death Penalty, it's abject failure is clear to be seen

The USA (and the UK) have never abandoned prisons yet crime is still happened, time to abolish prison obviously :roll:
 

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