Arsse identification

#1
Good afternoon gents,

Apologies for my first post being a little bit like a begging letter, but im afraid I need some help.

A friend of mine has recently had a bit of hard luck, what with the economy and all, and has been doing a bit of clearing out and selling off. Whilst digging through some inherited items he came across this piece





Now, he is sure its authentic as it was in a box gaffer taped up with "fragile" "keep" "important" that kind of thing written all over it.

So to cut a long story short, I have been asked to help him try to identify this broach with a view to putting a realistic value on it (so he doesnt get ripped off) which is, I hope, where you fine gentlemen come in! Any information that you may have would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Chris.


P.S great site, the naafi bar had me in complete stitches and cernunnos is god!
 
#3
That looks like a US emblem, talons holding the arrows and whatever the weed is :). The E.S at the top, just thinking the first letter may stand for Expeditionary?

Jim

I got it!! Eagle Squadron, Septic squadron in the Battle of Britain, the St Edwards crown on top of the eagle, anyone?
 
#6
Alsacien said:
The Sailor said:
That looks like a US emblem, talons holding the arrows and whatever the weed is :). The E.S at the top, just thinking the first letter may stand for Expeditionary?

Jim

I got it!! Eagle Squadron, Septic squadron in the Battle of Britain, the St Edwards crown on top of the eagle, anyone?
It is septic.

Not Eagle Sqn though.

http://www.duxford-wing.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61&Itemid=87

Just Googled Eagle Squadron, here is their patch.

Jim
 

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#8
This could be a brooch which somebody from the Squadron got made as a present, well it does look like a brooch.

Jim
 
#9
The Sailor said:
This could be a brooch which somebody from the Squadron got made as a present, well it does look like a brooch.

Jim
Doesn't explain the strange "we return on wings" bit though...
 
#10
RustyH said:
The Sailor said:
This could be a brooch which somebody from the Squadron got made as a present, well it does look like a brooch.

Jim
Doesn't explain the strange "we return on wings" bit though...
Yes understand, it could be personal though, anyway nice to crack it, brings a bit of history to life :).

Jim
 
#12
Its probably a "sweetheart badge" or some kind of reunion souvenir - hence the new motto in place of one of the former squadron mottos.
 
#13
Having just finished reading a book about the Squadron, this interested me enough to do as Blogg suggested. I'll report back what the site come up with.
 
#15
Wow, what a response!

Thank you all very very much for the information so far, especially regarding my long life and 2 kids :D

I shall post a link to this thread on fourthfightergroup with the hopes of some more intel.

Many thanks once again,

Chris.

Edit* D'oh, seems like I was beaten to it by in the cheap seats
 
#16
soleil said:
What is it clasping in its talons - arrows and?

It's not an olive branch, is it?
It is. Although not specified by law, the olive branch is usually depicted with 13 leaves and 13 olives, again representing the 13 original states. The eagle has its head turned towards the olive branch, said to symbolize a preference for peace.

The item in question is probably a sweetheart pin or broach. Would be curious to know its provenance.
 
#17
#18
The badge is creating a little interest with our US friends and has been raised to the President of the 4th FFGp foundation, the group this board is organised for.

They would like a little more info

Is there any clue from who the badge originated from? Maybe a pilots name?

From where in the country did the recipient come from/was posted/had contact with US forces?

The guy who answered me didn't recognise the motto either.
 
#19
Apologies for the tardy reply, ive been swamped!

I shall get some more info regards the provenance, if possible, later this week!

Many thanks for all the effort gents, its greatly appreciated.
 
#20
Once again, apologies for my slovenly attitude regarding this thread but ive been very busy.

After much digging ive managed to find out that this came to belong to my friends family through the purchase of a house. In the midst of re-decorating, this was found lovingly boxed and bagged, plastered behind a wall if the story is accurate! The gent who found it tried to find out some info, but in typical brummy style he lost interest, wrapped it up and thats where it stayed until he passed away, leaving it to Rod (my mate)

Whilst this doesnt give us any sold intel about where it originated, it does seem that someone went to great lengths to keep it safe, so any info would be very greatly appreciated!

Cheers,

Chris.
 
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