ARRSE - its all about to change

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
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#1
Since the dawn of ARRSE, we have been ruled by Labour.

How do posters feel that the dynamics of ARRSE Current Affairs will change when we can no longer agree to pin it on Bliar, Bruin, TCH, Ainsworthless and the rest of Labour's glittering cast who have done so much to ensure a consensus for the past five years or so?

(Edited for sound reasons)
 
#2
Bring back Watney's Red Barrel in a Party 7 can.
 
#3
FFS FORMER_FYRDMAN, Socialist Day has gone to your head.
 
#5
They say it takes ten years for economic policies to take noticable effect.

Ask me in ten years. Unitl then it's - poisoned chalice. Whet will have died by then anyway. Possibly from work-related stress.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#6
whitecity said:
FFS FORMER_FYRDMAN, Socialist Day has gone to your head.
I hope not but point taken and I've amended my first post accordingly.

I am curious though. We're a small 'c' conservative bunch generally and the ties that bind are going to change after Thursday. Time will tell how and what those changes will be but I am interested in the predictions of fellow posters about what shape that change may take and why.
 
#7
I predict no noticable change whatsoever. Same government -different party etc etc.
I predict a few "sickeners".

I think this yank joke will probably sum it up:
While walking down the street one day, a Republican head of state is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

"Welcome to Heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in." says the Republican.

"Well, I'd like to but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity."

"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in Heaven," says the Republican head of state.

"I'm sorry but we have our rules." And with that, St. Peter escorts the Republican to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a club and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him, everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, hug him, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster and caviar. Also present is the Devil (a Republican, too), who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes.

They are having such a good time that, before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a big hug and waves while the elevator
rises. The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on Heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit Heaven." So 24 hours pass with the Republican head of state joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well then, you've spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose your eternity."

He reflects for a minute, then the head of state answers: "Well, I would never have thought it, I mean Heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in Hell."

So Saint Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he is in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags. The Devil comes over to the Republican and lays an arm on his neck.

"I don't understand," stammers the Republican head of state. Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and club and we ate lobster and caviar and danced and had a great time. Now all there is a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.

The Devil looks at him, smiles and says, "Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted for us!"
 

Sixty

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#8
To be honest, I've never felt that political stories really belong in Arrse Current Affairs unless they're specifically Army related or of a global nature.

One could go on pretty much any site and discuss Labour, Conservative, Libs policies and their merits or discuss Mr Brown's latest gaffe. Don't see why it should be here.

Going on past evidence then, if the Conservative win the election, I guess CA posters will generally spend the subsequent six months coming up with inane nicknames for the Tories, in the mould of Zanu Liarbore and such.
 
#9
I guess CA posters will generally spend the subsequent six months coming up with inane nicknames for the Tories, in the mould of Zanu Liarbore and such.
I claim copyright on "Cambroon"
 
#10
I think that the mess that Labour have gotten us into is much worse than many realize. As Chancellor, Brown built the economy on the sands of public sector employment and consumer credit spending. When the global economy went tits up, we were very poorly placed to deal with it. The new government will soon find what we already know, which is that no plan survives first contact. It's going to be tough. There will be plenty of controversial decisions and crises for us to discuss and debate. The banking industry will (I trust) begin to change as will our benefits system and immigration will also react to that so that we have a peculiarly weird situation of high unemployment, but not enough applicants for vacancies in laborious, low income jobs like fruit picking/packing etc.

I foresee interesting times. Don't worry FF, we won't be bored. (I shall be at my local election count Thursday night which should be most entertaining as the Labour and Tory faithful get stuck into each other. The polls suggest Labour may lose their long standing seat. Should be fun to watch!)
 
#12
Sixty said:
To be honest, I've never felt that political stories really belong in Arrse Current Affairs unless they're specifically Army related or of a global nature.

One could go on pretty much any site and discuss Labour, Conservative, Libs policies and their merits or discuss Mr Brown's latest gaffe. Don't see why it should be here.

Going on past evidence then, if the Conservative win the election, I guess CA posters will generally spend the subsequent six months coming up with inane nicknames for the Tories, in the mould of Zanu Liarbore and such.
So squaddies should only be interested in political stories if they're army-related or global in nature, eh? Right. I assume you believe that this restriction of interests should also continue when yon squaddies are no longer serving? What a strange point of view.

Of course ARRSErs could discuss any number of topics on other websites, but why shouldn't they be able to do it on this one?

MsG
 

Sixty

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#13
Bugsy said:
Sixty said:
To be honest, I've never felt that political stories really belong in Arrse Current Affairs unless they're specifically Army related or of a global nature.

One could go on pretty much any site and discuss Labour, Conservative, Libs policies and their merits or discuss Mr Brown's latest gaffe. Don't see why it should be here.

Going on past evidence then, if the Conservative win the election, I guess CA posters will generally spend the subsequent six months coming up with inane nicknames for the Tories, in the mould of Zanu Liarbore and such.
So squaddies should only be interested in political stories if they're army-related or global in nature, eh? Right. I assume you believe that this restriction of interests should also continue when yon squaddies are no longer serving? What a strange point of view.

Of course ARRSErs could discuss any number of topics on other websites, but why shouldn't they be able to do it on this one?

MsG
For the hard of reading: I said it didn't belong in Current Affairs, not that it didn't belong on Arrse.

CA's stated aim is Army related or Geo-political stories only. Clear?
 
#14
Sixty said:
For the hard of reading: I said it didn't belong in Current Affairs, not that it didn't belong on Arrse.

CA's stated aim is Army related or Geo-political stories only. Clear?
No, not quite clear - yet. The full title of the forum is "Current Affairs, News and Analysis", so I still don't quite understand your point of view.

MsG
 
#15
CA's stated aim is Army related or Geo-political stories only. Clear?
In that case, the way the website is set up contradicts that aim. On my main menu, directly under the Current affairs...link are scrolling links to various blogs/websites discussing the very topics you say don't belong here. Or is that just my computer?
 
#16
It does seem confusing that you're not meant to discuss current affairs in CA, and there's no other forum in the serious part of the website for it. I think these days there's a sizeable percentage of the website not currently serving and so more of the readership will be affected by these issues which may have a more limited effect on the forces. Is there really not space enough for it all in the one place?
 

Sixty

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#17
Bugsy said:
Sixty said:
For the hard of reading: I said it didn't belong in Current Affairs, not that it didn't belong on Arrse.

CA's stated aim is Army related or Geo-political stories only. Clear?
No, not quite clear - yet. The full title of the forum is "Current Affairs, News and Analysis", so I still don't quite understand your point of view.

MsG
Yes you do. You're just being obtuse. You've been here long enough to have spotted PTP's stance on this:

 
#18
Sixty said:
Bugsy said:
Sixty said:
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Of course ARRSErs could discuss any number of topics on other websites, but why shouldn't they be able to do it on this one?

MsG
For the hard of reading: I said it didn't belong in Current Affairs, not that it didn't belong on Arrse.

CA's stated aim is Army related or Geo-political stories only. Clear?
Big Brother has spoken, read and obey!! :x :x :x
 

Sixty

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#19
Bravo_Zulu said:
It does seem confusing that you're not meant to discuss current affairs in CA, and there's no other forum in the serious part of the website for it. I think these days there's a sizeable percentage of the website not currently serving and so more of the readership will be affected by these issues which may have a more limited effect on the forces. Is there really not space enough for it all in the one place?
It's not ideal. I suppose the Int Cell or at a push, a dedicated politics forum might be an idea.

However, as I said , just my opinion, I don't moderate CA. And much as I'd like to discuss further, I'm taking my parents out to dinner tonight so will have to bid you a good evening until I get back.
 
#20
Sixty said:
Yes you do. You're just being obtuse. You've been here long enough to have spotted PTP's stance on this:
I've actually been here longer than you, in case you hadn't noticed. :)

And whatever stance PTP has, it was you who posted your opinion. Just trying to clarify things, that's all.

MsG
 

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