ARRSE European Elections

On June 10th I'll be voting for.....

  • Labour

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  • Conservative

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • UK Independance party (UKIP)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Green party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • BNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • none of them - I can't be arrsed

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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#1
Olive Green says- VOTE UKIP

PTP says- No.
No Party Political messages , unless the Parties concerned want to pay Arrse for the exposure.
And I'm sure I don't want Arrse running foul of the Electoral Commission . :roll:





edited to provide clarity over who is saying what
 
#2
PTP,

After checking with Good CO - my message was acceptable on arrse.


Edit: So my post says what i have written
 
#5
If that is their view of the E.U.,if you join them you get your head examined,free! (No offence meant). :p :p
 
#6
The company I work for manages to do most of it's trade with the US, not Europe, so how does wasting money on a hopeless task like European Integration help that. We manage to do this work without free trade deals, etc, etc.

When we see European institutions becoming more accountable (sack the Commission for a start) and more action taken against blatant fraud and mis-management then I might start to come round to Europe, but I'm not about to hold my breath for it.

The federalisation of the US worked because they at least spoke the same language. Swiss Government works dispite this because virtually everything is delegated out to the Cantons. The idea that we can get a federal government to work with over twenty wildly different languages is patently ridiculous.

Even worse the Government are now planning an additional level of government in the form of Regional Assemblies. How much more tax is going to be needed to fund these wasters! :evil:

We're just getting to Tax Freedom day here in the UK, in teh US it was a month and a half ago!
 
#7
Sorry, but i still don't get why we need to work at being part of the EU. If we pulled out now, the trade agreements would still stand. And as trade was the reason we joined in the first place, i don't see why we need to agree to all the other stuff they're imposing on us. I say lets get out, start ruling ourselves again, and spend the money saved by not buying ionto europe on the more pressing issues in blighty. UKIP all the way!
 
#8
white_rose said:
I say lets get out, start ruling ourselves again, and spend the money saved by not buying ionto europe
Are you insane? Do you realise the majority of British trade is inside the EEC?
 
#9
So with the UKIP in the lead on this poll do people see them as a more voter friendly BNP - i.e. similar in some respects but without the shadow of Nazism - or do people see it as a totally different animal? If the UKIP wasn't around would people be feel that they would have to vote BNP instead? I think that this would definately be the case with myself...
 
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manchestermonkey said:
white_rose said:
I say lets get out, start ruling ourselves again, and spend the money saved by not buying ionto europe
Are you insane? Do you realise the majority of British trade is inside the EEC?
When Britain leaves the European Union, we'll be able to take full advantage of trading opportunities throughout the world, and not just in Europe. The EU prevents us from trading freely and fairly on the world stage. UKIP supports genuine free trade.

Britain is the world's fourth largest economy and the second largest global investor (after the United States). It can hardly be said that we are 'too small to survive alone'. Britain is also head of the Commonwealth which includes a quarter of the world's population. It is a free association of independent nations which share our language, culture and approach to business. This is a far better model for international relations than the centralised, increasingly tyrannical EU.

Outside the EU, we can build strong trading relationships with the rest of the world, including Commonwealth countries and the North American Free Trade Area. It is ironic that the European Commission could negotiate with - or even join - NAFTA. Britain cannot make such decisions because Tory and Labour governments have signed our sovereignty away.

The UKIP is the only party to support free and fair trade for a free country.
 
#11
white_rose said:
Sorry, but i still don't get why we need to work at being part of the EU. If we pulled out now, the trade agreements would still stand. And as trade was the reason we joined in the first place, i don't see why we need to agree to all the other stuff they're imposing on us. I say lets get out, start ruling ourselves again, and spend the money saved by not buying ionto europe on the more pressing issues in blighty. UKIP all the way!
having checked the rules of purdah clearly to ensure i don't cross any lines i can safely say.................

WTF if we become an 'island', in the true sense of the word, we would end up not only an incredibly poor one, but one that would never be able to defend itself or shores again....
might as well just put on the chains ourselves and throw open the doors!

stepping back on the shelf to watch and not get involved.
Thank you
 
#12
Rhino,

I had a long chat with Charlie Krankie a couple of weeks ago. He was clear of eye, firm of speech and handshake.

The Scotch thing is a runour. Wee Charlie does like a snifter from time to time, but certainly not enough to render him errrrr "Tired and emotional"

Anyway, I'm voting and representing LibDem, as it's the fast track to personal power. There are so many old-fashioned woolly thinking "Naice types" in the Party, it damn well needs a Shark like me to get the show on the road. :twisted:
 
#13
blessed baby cakes said:
WTF if we become an 'island', in the true sense of the word, we would end up not only an incredibly poor one, but one that would never be able to defend itself or shores again....
might as well just put on the chains ourselves and throw open the doors!

stepping back on the shelf to watch and not get involved.
Thank you
What about scandinavian countries? I thought some of them weren't getting involved in the whole european thing, and don't seem to have read anywhere about them on the brink of descending into poverty. (Will need to go and read up a bit more to make sure of that though!)
 
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How bizarre!!!
We can't discuss our options for the forthcoming elections?!
I personally don't give a flying fukc which lying cheating politicians get in but I would like the opportunity to discuss the options!
Blimey 8O
 
#15
notmesir said:
So with the UKIP in the lead on this poll do people see them as a more voter friendly BNP - i.e. similar in some respects but without the shadow of Nazism - or do people see it as a totally different animal? If the UKIP wasn't around would people be feel that they would have to vote BNP instead? I think that this would definately be the case with myself...
Absolutely not, there's far too much in the way of racial overtones to whaty the BNP are saying. I'm not averse to immigration from genuine asylum seekers or SKILLED migrants. Unfortunately we have a rampant trade in people suggling and free movement of a hell of a lot of people who have little or no skills, they arrive in this country looking for an improved lifestyle. These people take up low-skilled employment meaning that at lot of people born in this country cannot get jobs (irrespective of their race).
 
#16
I think the UKIP, is the only part, with the exception of the BNP that overtly panders to British nationalism.

No bad thing in small doses, Nationalism, but not when it addles the greater thinking.

At this time, the Nationalism/Patriotism element is strong, mainly because the Peerless Pilot, and his Pantancheon of Pleasure, has shoved British pride into the toilet , with his slavish devotion to the Muppett in Casa Blanca.

Britain wants it's standing back as a World power , synomonous with all that the world USED to respect about us.

So I can see an increased vote for the "Nationalist" line.

Personally, I'm not a great supporter of any Political Party that overtly pushes the Nationalism and Patriotism line, whose leaders have never spent a day in the uniform of our Armed Forces.
 
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PartTimePongo said:
I think the UKIP, is the only party, with the exception of the BNP that overtly panders to British nationalism.
Is it? What sort of things does it believe in then? What are it's main manifesto beliefs? :evil:
 
#18
MikeMcc said:
When we see European institutions becoming more accountable (sack the Commission for a start) and more action taken against blatant fraud and mis-management then I might start to come round to Europe, but I'm not about to hold my breath for it.
What was it that Jon Snow pointed out, when he was trying to show that the media have done a bloody awful job of informing us about "Europe" and its organisations? That the European Commission employs 2/3 of the number of people of Hampshire County Council? (20,000 versus 33,000 if you're curious)

There's a lot of arrse talked about how bloated the commission is, how inefficient it is, how useless it is. Most of it from newspapers that we don't trust to tell us the time, and yet we lap up every story about how "it's Europe to blame for this or that" when it's a slow news week.

Not saying it's perfect, not even wonderful, just that if I don't trust the Daily Tabloid when it writes about things I do vaguely understand (say, the Armed Forces) then why should they be doing any better a job when it comes to things that I'm not so clued up on?
 
#19
MM

With the exception of the unofficial use of the logo, it was.

However, I couldn't allow a CK manifesto speech to stand, whilst deleting OG's UKIP manifesto C+P

Much as I'd like to , especially as I am standing this time :D


Olive_G

Sorry, no Manifestos or C+P speeches. Apart from the electoral Commission's Analness on matters like this , I'd rather have the views of the electorate.

You can all make a great case for your particular standpoints, without it. You can however, post a link to the URL of the Manifesto you wish to illustrate, as long as the party concerned, has registered candidates to fight the June 10th European and Local elections.

On the matter yopu mailed me about, on that particular one, they can only be reset by you , or Good/Bad CO , because I think you inadvertently locked it out!

Sorry, as I type this, I'm looking through a rather bulky copy of the Electoral Commissions guidelines, and it's a friggin nightmare. 8O

Anyway.... to the hustings :D
 
#20
Mike, thanks, i just wonder who people would vote for if there wasn't a UKIP (a relatively new party) - would people vote BNP as a warning vote?

PTP - Nationalism has a part in all this i will agree, but i think there is a difference between nationalism and sticking up for oneself. The majority have been bullied by a vocal left wing/PC minority for so long they are looking for someone to stick up for them. Unfortunately it seems to be parties of a nationalistic flavour who seem to be prepared to do so - hence the above question. If there was no UKIP would people vote BNP? For whatever reason it seems like a lot of people just don't see the Liberals as an alternative here.
 
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