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Not sure why you're still "waiting" as you're apparently one of the very few here who knows what LS and MAO could entail - certainly the only one to make any sort of informed comment.

I've detailed NI, as well as UNAMIC and UNTAC (only one theatre),, ignored UNFICYP, and explained MAO / LS.

There's not much more that can be said, although if you include GB and Nepal as some have bizarrely said should be the case many of us would be well into double figures.
Walter, Walter, Walter.
 
You realy do have problems with very basic English.

Maybe you should use google to find out what "appear" and "might" mean.

... and while you're there you could look up puerile and stupid.
My English is fine, you’re ignorance though..........

You could have just asked a question, then you’d have got the answer, but that doesn’t suit your abusive posting style.
 
Wow. So you know all about the several thousand who got redundancy? Including their potential for promotion?
Such verbosity in one post. Your butthurt and pain at getting sh1tcanned under the auspices of Redundancy is clear for all to see. You sad, sad creature.

In my case at least sub Major,
I could not care less if you were a Major General, You are a civvy and have been for years. End of story.

Did this cut to the bone John.

In John G's particular case, my take on it only. If he truly was farmed out 4 or 5 times to Operational Theatres on LS / MAO that suggests to me that he was being kept out of the way, which does not suggest that he had great career prospects.

I am coming around to the idea that John G is confusing Operational Theatres with Operating Theatres.
Calling people turds John. That is certainly rich coming from a lying Walt.
 
Badly worded on my behalf.
You mean like the post you made about trg on Milan cses where you wrote "Pam 21 - Shoot to Kill required" (your bold) and then took the reply to be an answer to a completely different question?

Badly worded like that?
Let me clarify. Phase 2, options for change, all those who were given redundancy from my Battalion had reached their ceiling.
How were you possibly in any position to know?

How could you possibly know about those on ERE?

Even if you're only talking about the few at RD, none of the DE Majors (the only ones relevant) given redundancy would have necessarily "reached their ceiling" if they were in command earning posts ccommanding companies. None. They'd have still been eligible and in the bracket for another 10 - 15 years.

This is utter nonsense.
Hence these points
. There were people who applied and were rejected.
Which, according to a Brigadier I knew who did the same resettlement as me and who'd recently worked in MS, is incorrect. As far as he was aware nobody who'd applied for redundancy who was eligible (some who applied were ineligible due to time bars) was rejected if they appealed. Nobody. N O B O D Y.

He could of course have been wrong, so to put your own knowledge into perspective (and I'll put it in bold and caps for you WHAT EXACTLY WAS YOUR JOB IN THE ARMY TWENTY-SIX YEARS AGO that puts you in any position to know this?
It is not beyond the realms of possibility that this also happened across other Battalions, speculation on my part only. Although it makes complete sense when you factor in the ongoing and upcoming amalgamations. A great opportunity to weed out the weak. A win - win for both sides. Weed out the weak and the weak get to claim Redundancy rather than SNLR'd / Booted.
Since it almost certainly never happened in your bn it's equally unlikely to have happened anywhere else. I'll wait until you explain exactly what your position of such knowledge was twenty six years ago before commenting on it.
In John G's particular case, my take on it only. If he truly was farmed out 4 or 5 times to Operational Theatres on LS / MAO that suggests to me that he was being kept out of the way, which does not suggest that he had great career prospects.
For someone who claims to have been in the infantry for 22 years and suggests he was at least a WO2 at RD you know amazingly little about how an inf bn works. Not surprising for someone in the RLC, but near impossible for anyone with your supposed background.

As you should know, but evidently don't, offrs can't just stay in their parent bn but they spend most of their time on ERE. With very, very few exceptions it's only possible to do any appointment once, unless briefly 'standing in' so it's impossible for officers to avoid spending most of their time being "kept out of the way" and "farmed out". That's how it works. There is no option.

... FWIW I've been very clear that I didn't have "great career prospects" - that's a choice that anyone who does MAO / LS takes, as others have explained. At length.

You really don't have a clue what you're talking about, and you confirm that with every post.

Fascinated to know what you were 26 years ago that makes you such an SME on 1992 / 3 redundancies .....
 
My English is fine
Sadly it's not.

If a point is made with the caveats of "he doesn't appear to know" and "as I'd have thought he might" there can be no 'assumption'. It isn't possible.
You could have just asked a question, then you’d have got the answer, but that doesn’t suit your abusive posting style.
I could, but that would have required an assumption that you'd give an honest answer, which sadly you've become incapable of.
 
You are a civvy and have been for years. End of story.
So what?

So are you, as you too must have been for years if you're as well informed about redundancies as you claim.

... and so are the majority of those posting on Arrse and in this thread, if some ever served at all.

Yet another moronic, self-defeating post.
 
Did this cut to the bone John.
No, because it came from you and so was inevitably incorrect about something you should be expected to know.
Calling people turds John. That is certainly rich coming from a lying Walt.
Actually it was "the most stupid and most tedious little turd posting in this thread". You've got competition and I may well be more tedious, but you're still in a league of your own on stupid.

Feel free to post any specific lies and Walting you can - I've detailed the exact course with Milan, for example, so with your MS knowledge it should be very easy to disprove.
 
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No, because it came from you and so was inevitably incorrect about something you should be expected to know.
Actually it was "the most stupid and most tedious little turd posting in this thread". You've got competition and I may well be more tedious, but yo're still in a league of your own on stupid.

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Actually it was "You stupid little turd. You don't even know what you've written youself."

Post 2138 refers.....
You bullshitting wanker.
 
Badly worded on my behalf.

Let me clarify. Phase 2, options for change, all those who were given redundancy from my Battalion had reached their ceiling.

Hence these points



It is not beyond the realms of possibility that this also happened across other Battalions, speculation on my part only. Although it makes complete sense when you factor in the ongoing and upcoming amalgamations. A great opportunity to weed out the weak. A win - win for both sides. Weed out the weak and the weak get to claim Redundancy rather than SNLR'd / Booted.

In John G's particular case, my take on it only. If he truly was farmed out 4 or 5 times to Operational Theatres on LS / MAO that suggests to me that he was being kept out of the way, which does not suggest that he had great career prospects.

I am coming around to the idea that John G is confusing Operational Theatres with Operating Theatres.
I very much doubt that there were any regular officers serving at regimental duty ehonhad reached their ceiling who were eligible for redundancy.

I don’t have that take on what he’s posted. Back then, if you didn’t make the cut for Staff College you had to do different stuff to raise your profile. His career isn’t a typical of many of my contemporaries. Ten years as a Major gave plenty of opportunity.
 
Not sure why you're still "waiting" as you're apparently one of the very few here who knows what LS and MAO could entail - certainly the only one to make any sort of informed comment.

I've detailed NI, as well as UNAMIC and UNTAC (only one theatre),, ignored UNFICYP, and explained MAO / LS.

There's not much more that can be said, although if you include GB and Nepal as some have bizarrely said should be the case many of us would be well into double figures.
Must have missed where you listed six theatres John, or maybe you’re being elusive. I’m for once on your side of the “debate” here though; opportunities to get operational experience were few and far between when you served.

You can’t deploy on operations if there aren’t any to deploy on. There was a Sapper CO on Telic 2 on his first operational tour.....ten years before, it wasn’t unusual to find VSOs with just an NI medal.
 
Point to note - If you are going to call people stupid, make sure your own sh!t is squared away.
A lone typo? You stupid little turd.
6 Operational Theatres between 77 - 93. My Arrse.
Not at all unusual at that time for anyone doing MAO /LS. It simply wasn't a big deal -some did more, some did less.

All you're demonstrating, yet again. is that depite being the ony person who said he knew what MAO was you still don't have clue.

Still mildly inerested to know what you were doing back in 1993, 26 years ago,that makes you the SME on redundancy.
 
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Must have missed where you listed six theatres John, or maybe you’re being elusive. I’m for once on your side of the “debate” here though; opportunities to get operational experience were few and far between when you served.

You can’t deploy on operations if there aren’t any to deploy on. There was a Sapper CO on Telic 2 on his first operational tour.....ten years before, it wasn’t unusual to find VSOs with just an NI medal.
Not elusive at all. They're detailed, as far as I can, in the post you quoted.

Edit: TBH, Bob, what's least surprising about the last hundred pages or so is that those who have reverted to the "Walt, Walt" chant is that they themselves (D_D, PK, dingerr, etc) are the ones who are most reluctant to answer any questions as doing so would contradict what they've already posted.

All just a little bit "I've got no friends but if I join the gang on the net then I'll have some". Thank God I've never been that desperate for a bit of peer approval. All a little bit sad.
 
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Actually it was "You stupid little turd. You don't even know what you've written youself."

Post 2138 refers.....
You bullshitting ******.
Actually both are correct. I'd overlooked that particular piece of mindless stupidity.

As I've said to others, feel free to quote any BS. You'll find I've been very specific, down to cses, dates, etc, everywhere where it's possible to be (and obviousy for me as for others posting here it's not possible to be on some things even if Persec isn't a consideration). Even giving things whch are relatively easily verified such as cses at SWW isn't good enough for some people.. even if they've nevervheard of SWW. ...or MAO, or LSl. etc, etc, etc ......


If you can't understand that because it'e outside your experience that's your problem, not mine. Just because I don't know anything about either bobtheb's jobs doesn't make me think they're Walts - it really is rather puerile.
 
Not at all unusual at that time for anyone doing MAO /LS. It simply wasn't a big deal -some did more, some did less.
I will type this slowly so that even a walt like you can understand it.

You ===== did ====== not ======= serve ====== in ======= 6 ====== different ====== Operational ====== Theatres ======= between 1977 and 1992 / 3.

Not ====== all ======= MAO / LS ======== were ====== Operational ======== Theatres.
 
I will type this slowly so that even a walt like you can understand it.

You ===== did ====== not ======= serve ====== in ======= 6 ====== different ====== Operational ====== Theatres ======= between 1977 and 1992 / 3.

Not ====== all ======= MAO / LS ======== were ====== Operational ======== Theatres.
Of course they weren't.

Beyond what I've posted you have no idea where I served and until I told you, you had no idea what MAO or LS was.

Since you had no idea what MAO or LS were you obviously don't know anything about them.

It's like your nonsense about Milan and Milan pl comds / NCOs blowing Milan blinds and getting taught it as a cse requirement; or Pam 21 which, despite claiming to have used extensively, unlike me, you also mistakenly called Shoot to Kill; your incomprehensible failure to realise that LFAs are classified as 'ranges' despite supposedly running field firing; your failure to realise that the British agreement in Basra was called an accommodation then launching into rant mode; your total ignorance of 1993 redundancies which you were in no position to know anything about.

The list goes on and on and on, but it doesn't stop you shouting about it all as if you're an expert.

For anyone on the MAO / LS 'circuit' it was normal. More than some, less than others. I'm not trying to make a big deal about it - I was asked a question, repeatedly, and I replied. There was no bigging up on my part.

You and others don't like the answer and can't understand the context? Well, don't ask a question to big yourself up then get upset when it backfires or jump on the bandwagon.

You have no idea what you're talking about, that's clear beyond any possible doubt, but you still insist on shouting about how little you know. Don't let me put you off.

I couldn't care less how many tours anyone's done - in isolation it's meaningless. What I could care about is thousands of soldiers who risked their lives and hundreds who lost them being trashed wholesale just so some obnoxious little turd can big himself up on the internet.
 

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