Army to Police

#1
Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.


- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
 
#2
When I left I did my demob course with the Hampshire police and then went into the MET and jacked before leaving Hendon as it was f***ing childish, being treated like 12 year old, it was worse than day one at junior leaders, and all the time I was being offered jobs with better pay and a lot more fun so I went to Africa and had a ball
 
#3
Siggie said:
Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.


- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
That'll be two years before you can apply to join CO19, I can't think of many blokes/ettes that joined CO19 that soon in their career, I'm not saying it can't be done just that it might be a little difficult.

Good luck with both careers.
 
#4
TaffJ said:
Siggie said:
- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
That'll be two years before you can apply to join CO19, I can't think of many blokes/ettes that joined CO19 that soon in their career, I'm not saying it can't be done just that it might be a little difficult.

Good luck with both careers.
Thanks. So is there no way to directly apply to CO19? You think they'red be some kind of scheme for migration from army to police?
 
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#5
Siggie said:
Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.


- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
Not trying to get at you or be critical but why not just join the police in the first instance if thats where you want to end up in the future?? It may be worth it in the long run.
 
#6
Siggie said:
Thanks. So is there no way to directly apply to CO19? You think they'red be some kind of scheme for migration from army to police?
Why? you cannot join a specialist unit in the Police without first getting some real "beat" experince.

This applies to all specialist units including the River Police, Police Divers, Firearms, Traffic, Motorcyclist etc etc.

No singling out, just a fact of life....even the Army wont let you join the SAS without serving first. :)..and they arnt as hard as The Sweeny ;)
 
#7
2/51 said:
Siggie said:
Thanks. So is there no way to directly apply to CO19? You think they'red be some kind of scheme for migration from army to police?
Why? you cannot join a specialist unit in the Police without first getting some real "beat" experince.

This applies to all specialist units including the River Police, Police Divers, Firearms, Traffic, Motorcyclist etc etc.

No singling out, just a fact of life....even the Army wont let you join the SAS without serving first. :)..and they arnt as hard as The Sweeny ;)
Haha good one.

If you can see from my previous posts, filing paperwork from some 17 year old whos smoking some pot, is not exactly what i want to be doing.

As for real beat experience... wouldn't a para be more entertaining to them than a street bobby with a few years pulling over speeders?
 
#8
Siggie said:
2/51 said:
Siggie said:
Thanks. So is there no way to directly apply to CO19? You think they'red be some kind of scheme for migration from army to police?
Why? you cannot join a specialist unit in the Police without first getting some real "beat" experince.

This applies to all specialist units including the River Police, Police Divers, Firearms, Traffic, Motorcyclist etc etc.

No singling out, just a fact of life....even the Army wont let you join the SAS without serving first. :)..and they arnt as hard as The Sweeny ;)
Haha good one.

If you can see from my previous posts, filing paperwork from some 17 year old whos smoking some pot, is not exactly what i want to be doing.

As for real beat experience... wouldn't a para be more entertaining to them than a street bobby with a few years pulling over speeders?
A PARA may be an excellent shot, physically fit and a good all round soldier. However Firearms officers are coppers first, cowboys second. They are expected to apply the law, investigate crime and arrest offenders just like everyone else.

I too personally think there should be some easy leap from the armed forces (Particularly ex NCO's and Ruperts) to the police however this should not interfere with the tried and tested probation period. I was suprised by how many people actually bin it within the first few years for various reasons such as stress, fear of confrontation, the inflexible hours, the fecking paperwork, being treated like a tw@t, realising its all very 1 step forward 2 steps back and the paperwork... again.

Good Luck ;)
 
#9
I wouldn't be a rush to join any police force for a while.

I was one of the lucky few that got my application in to GMP during the 48 hour window that was opened last February. Since then it has been a very slow process of running through the selection system.

In July last year, all applicants thathad not fully completed their selection process were given a letter stating that all further recruitment is on hold for the forseable future due to budget issues. The letter also stated that although everyone should maintain their current fitness levels there would be no progressing of any applications until at least April 2010.

Looking on the police equivalents of Arrse it appears that this is the case across the whole country.

I suggest that you have a look at the police websites and talk to the people doing the job.
 
#10
Siggie said:
TaffJ said:
Siggie said:
- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
That'll be two years before you can apply to join CO19, I can't think of many blokes/ettes that joined CO19 that soon in their career, I'm not saying it can't be done just that it might be a little difficult.

Good luck with both careers.
Thanks. So is there no way to directly apply to CO19? You think they'red be some kind of scheme for migration from army to police?
It's been nearly seven years since I left the Met for pastures warmer and unless things have changed drastically you still have to do the two years probby period and only then can you start applying for specialist posts or jobs.

As a previous poster mentioned you might have a long wait to get into the force of your choice, a lot of people used to join the Met, do their two years and maybe a little more and then transfer to a county force, don't know if that is still done.

When I went through the police college they were pushing through 200 newbies every 5 weeks so the turnover is huge but then again the rumour was that there were 10 applicants for every space that came up, so we were speshul ;-)
 
#11
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't actually got where you want to be in the Army yet and you're already thinking of leaving and joining the Police...
I assume that you are both young in years and young in service, and for what it's worth I'd stay just where you are and get to the top of what you're doing currently before thinking of moving on. I have been in the Police for 19 years having left the Army in 1991 and I am currently with CO19. We have far too many inexperienced young chaps and chappesses who think the Police is an easy ride to loadsamoney, but who haven't learnt enough from the real world first.
Please see a bit the nasty side of life in the Forces first, and then use that to your advantage later on in a few more years when you join the Police.
 
#12
Siggie said:
Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.


- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
This has got to be a wind up. PLEEEEEAS tell me that this is a wind up. :x
 
#14
Sundog said:
Siggie said:
Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.


- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
This has got to be a wind up. PLEEEEEAS tell me that this is a wind up. :x

Why would it be a wind up? If you havn't got anything good to add, please keep it stumb...

Its a valid question seeing as the Army and Police are both very similar, you would think that there was a way to progress from the army.

Creepy said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't actually got where you want to be in the Army yet and you're already thinking of leaving and joining the Police...

I am currently with CO19. We have far too many inexperienced young chaps and chappesses who think the Police is an easy ride to loadsamoney, but who haven't learnt enough from the real world first.
Its called a career plan. Some people actually think about what they want to do, and also more than a few years in advance...

Its not about the money its what i want to do. If it was the money, id stay where i am, i've got a nice custy little office job earning me 25k a year but it bores the hell out of me.

When you say inexperienced, im guessing you mean life, and sorry but you cant say a para will be inexperienced in that.

Closet_Jibber said:
A PARA may be an excellent shot, physically fit and a good all round soldier. However Firearms officers are coppers first, cowboys second. They are expected to apply the law, investigate crime and arrest offenders just like everyone else.
Yeah i see where your coming from on that, understandable though definetely.

Thanks to everyone for their input so far!! :D
 
#15
Siggie said:
Its a valid question seeing as the Army and Police are both very similar, you would think that there was a way to progress from the army.
My bold.

Now I have stopped laughing I can reply.

Wrong. They are not.

It was fairly easy to join the Police from the Army 30 years ago, before decent comms, when a copper patrolled alone and only had a whistle to summon help, and had to be fairly handy at the rough and tumble.

Now-a-days though, with a CV full of operational tours and a kit bag full of enemy ears you will fail at the first hurdle, and if by some paperwork cock-up you do get in and finish your probation and do some independent patrol time on the beat and manage to make friends with members of the firearms team (all of these are a prerequisite by the way) you still will not get a position on that team with a gung-ho attitude. (even if you are the best snipery bod in your military unit).

The best weapon a copper has got is his mouth.

Sorry to dissapoint.

Edited to add. Yes. I have worn both uniforms and it is a bone question.
 
#16
Siggie, how old are you? 'Cos I'm getting a distinct heat sig of a 19-year old X Box shoot-em-up 'wizard' who stays up too late.

............and a real odour of 'wanna go ParaSAS an' slot ragheads'.

Enlist, first, do some growing up, serve your time in whichever Regt or Corps is your choice - and then think of a second career.................and some years ago, CO19 used to have a policy of not touching squaddies with a 20' pole. Though this has possibly changed.
 
#17
Siggie, believe me and i know that every other PC on here will back me up, if you follow your career plan and leave the Army for the Police your experience in handling weapons will count for nothing. When filling out an application form and being interviewed for any specialist post previous experience holds no sway at all. All the Human resources and bean counters are interested in is how many examples you can give about what a diverse person you are and how many times you have challenged inappropriate behaviour.
Sorry chap.
 
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#18
Siggie said:
Sundog said:
Siggie said:
Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.


- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.
This has got to be a wind up. PLEEEEEAS tell me that this is a wind up. :x

Why would it be a wind up? If you havn't got anything good to add, please keep it stumb...

Its a valid question seeing as the Army and Police are both very similar, you would think that there was a way to progress from the army.

Creepy said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't actually got where you want to be in the Army yet and you're already thinking of leaving and joining the Police...

I am currently with CO19. We have far too many inexperienced young chaps and chappesses who think the Police is an easy ride to loadsamoney, but who haven't learnt enough from the real world first.
Its called a career plan. Some people actually think about what they want to do, and also more than a few years in advance...

Its not about the money its what i want to do. If it was the money, id stay where i am, i've got a nice custy little office job earning me 25k a year but it bores the hell out of me.

When you say inexperienced, im guessing you mean life, and sorry but you cant say a para will be inexperienced in that.

Closet_Jibber said:
A PARA may be an excellent shot, physically fit and a good all round soldier. However Firearms officers are coppers first, cowboys second. They are expected to apply the law, investigate crime and arrest offenders just like everyone else.
Yeah i see where your coming from on that, understandable though definetely.

Thanks to everyone for their input so far!! :D
You are coming across as impudent, loving the "I cant be bothered with being a bobby" part you wrote. WTF!!!!

Suggest 25mg maturity injection and actually speaking to some police to see what the jobs about, your attitude eptomises everything thats wrong with the probationers today and most likely why the police service get hammered in the papers...... and this site. :policeflat:

Of course 10+ years ago,had you joined with that attitude it would have been belted out of you down the cell passageway by your tutor. Seen it first hand a few times
 
#20
Fair enough, naivety on my part.

For information, I'm joining the signals and hoping to get to 7Sig where i can do my para. From here i thought this would give me an advantage when applying for CO19 or similar. The reason i thought this was because i see similaritys in their work, e.g, escorting etc..

After seeing the replys i now see why this was a stupid question, but as you can see i had no clue (to which i now have much clarity, thank you :D ).

Yeah, as a few of you have suggested i'll just stick to the one career!

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