Army to get £1bn Warrior upgrade

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  1. msr

    msr LE

    FRES finally arrives?
  2. I see the coalition have adopted the Brownian tactic of announcing "spending olds" and hoping that people think it is a new commitment.

    Or did I miss this being briefly cancelled so it could be re-announced.

    And, no. Nothing to do with FRES.
  3. Read the article: good to see that Warrior, GKN Sankey/Defence winning the production contract in 1980, will according to...

    Prime Minister David Cameron and Defence Secretary Philip Hammond… extend the service life of the vehicles through to 2040 and beyond.

    Chief of General Staff General Sir Peter Wall said that Warrior... will continue to be at the heart of our combat capability for at least another 25 years with state-of-the-art firepower and electronics. So that would make it 2035 then

    Meanwhile, next paragraph
    Lockheed Martin UK vice-president Alan McCormick said: "We are delighted that the MoD has selected us to lead this critical upgrade effort designed to maximise the investment made in Warrior vehicles to extend their lives by an additional 20 years.
    So making it 2030.

    So then, clear as mud.

    Final point, is McCormick British or yank? Can we specify Brit only for our industry?
  4. What is going to tow them into action though?
  5. msr

    msr LE

    I think you'll find it is the future...
  6. Another point.
    Could the thread be merged with Major General Nick Carter -future of the British Army?
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  7. ah, buy cheap, buy twice.
    we are good at this, SA80, now Warrior. Rather than having a decent turret and weapon system from the start, we instead have a non-stabilised main armament, namely the archaic Rarden cannon, kidding ourselves that it is as good as a Bradley, now chucking more money at it to actually achieve this.
    Rack catch plunger release catch cam!
  8. I fully expect after this upgrade program has finished we will be left with the equivalent of an MFO trolley with a GPMG strapped to it.
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  9. No, what we've just committed to is a modern version of the FV430 series problem. A piece of kit designed for the 1980's battlefield, introduced just as Defence in Europe is changing, deploying on ops to wars in an environment it was not really designed for and then upgraded and expected to be modern for decades with no money earmarked from the Defence budget for adapting it (if needed) to a required, safe, effective working solution.
  10. so they upgrade the Warrior kit, spending a ton of money, dont they realise they have sacked half the soldiers that could have driven it?
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  11. What's that you say? We won't have massed hordes of wuperts in warriors cutting a dash around the North German Plain going toe to toe with Ivans hordes of BMP's!
  12. The article is a little vague, it just says "hundreds of vehicles". How many do we have going through this upgrade? It all seems a tad expensive......