Army signs deal with Stonewall

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The Army has joined forces with leading gay rights group Stonewall to promote tolerance within its ranks.

Head of the British Army General Sir Richard Dannatt said discrimination prevented the full contribution that is "vital for our success in operations".

Stonewall said it had yet to set up an action plan, but that it would initially focus on recruitment and retention of military personnel.

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The Army is the 400th member of Stonewall's Diversity Champions programme, and the final branch of the military to join.

General Dannatt said: "One of the Army's six Core Values is 'Respect for Others' and it is therefore our absolute duty to treat our fellow soldiers as we would wish to be treated ourselves.

"Discrimination against those in the Army who are lesbian, gay and bisexual does not give them a chance to contribute or to play a full part in the teams that are vital for our success on operations."

General Dannatt added that he looked forward to working with Stonewall, and that promoting tolerance was part of the trust that must exist between soldiers and their country.
 
#2
Stonewall. Only interested in positive discrimination.
Having anything to do with them is a backwards step and only ties the Army to their bullshit.
More PC rubbish that costs money and irritates the majority.
 
#4
I might start of group called the white straight normal person who pays taxes and works hard for a living.
Wonder if the these firms will join my mouthpiece if I were to start it up - I think not.
ALL A LOAD OF OLD B0LLOCKS - WHETHER GAY STRAIGHT MUSLIM BHUDDIST ETC.
THE WORLD HAS GONE FOOKING MAD
 
#5
Always wondered why a group in to diversity and all that gumph, would call themselves "stonewall"? Doesn´t conjure up images of an open group who welcomes all views does it.
 
#6
Political correctness gone mad. Why doesn't the MoD utilise its time and efforts elsewhere by ensuring better conditions for Armed Forces personnel whatever their orientation. Soon heterosexual personnel will be the in the minority.

Standby for Flash and his comments...........................
 
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Stonewall said it had yet to set up an action plan, but that it would initially focus on recruitment and retention of military personnel.
I have no issue if various organisations want to help with recruiting: we don't actually have a problem hitting our targets (when viewed across the Army as a whole) so no dramas.

But what specific measures are Stonewall going to bring in to retain gayers that couldn't also be used to retain others? It smacks of incipient positive discrimination: we aren't the Met for God's sake. Just leave people alone to be whatever they want to be, and let them get there on their own merits - or otherwise.

It is just possible to be black/gay/dwarf and be crap at your job as well. Plenty of 'white' or 'heterosexual' or 'around about 5 foot 10' people manage it every day without the need for a 'specialist action focus group'.
 
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Poor CGS...as a committed Christian this must have stuck in his throat like a...a...well you get my drift.
 
#12
Proximo said:
I have no issue if various organisations want to help with recruiting: we don't actually have a problem hitting our targets (when viewed across the Army as a whole) so no dramas.
Apart from being some 5,000 short?
 
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Cuddles said:
Poor CGS...as a committed Christian this must have stuck in his throat like a...a...well you get my drift.
Oh, I don't know. Love the sinner, and all that. So long as people pass the Service test, he'll probably be fine with it :)

I'm still smiling at the CofE's vocal minority demonstrating that bigotry exists above dog collars as much as anywhere else...

...speaking as an ex-member of a church that has no problem with female ministers, or female Moderators for that matter. I must have missed the part of the Bible that laid out how established churches were to be recruited and run.
 
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Gravelbelly said:
...speaking as an ex-member of a church that has no problem with female ministers, or female Moderators for that matter. I must have missed the part of the Bible that laid out how established churches were to be recruited and run.
Religious doctrine is not exactly like military doctrine GB!

The "sinfully intolerant" (sic) CofS might however have a problem or two with Bishop Robinson and his ilk?
 
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jarrod248 said:
I really don't think this was a good idea and Tatchell gives me the creeps.
He may do but I wouldnt have thought that Peter Tatchell has anything to do with this reported initiative. He was one of the founders of Outrage!, a very different organisation from Stonewall, which he has criticised for its focus on lobbying and workplace negotiations as opposed to so-called direct action.

Cuddles said:
...The "sinfully intolerant" (sic) CofS might however have a problem or two with Bishop Robinson and his ilk?
Well, he's a Bishop, for a start!
 
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#18
Command_doh said:
Yeah, definitely brings a new kind of Militancy to the Military. Whats next - appoint Peter Tatchell to the General Staff?
That Tatchell fella looks creepy as f*ck. He reminds me of the geezer who rounds up the kids in 'Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang'.

If I was gay I wouldn't let him do me up the ricker.
 
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Does this mean that all trousers will now need to be worn back to front?

:oops: :oops: :oops:
 
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hackle said:
Cuddles said:
...The "sinfully intolerant" (sic) CofS might however have a problem or two with Bishop Robinson and his ilk?
Well, he's a Bishop, for a start!
Yes, maybe the Moderator could invite the pink-prelate for a walk in the countryside...at...oh...I don't know...Magus Muir?
 

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