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  1. Taliban Reign Of Terror Inside Pakistan

    6:20am UK, Monday March 23, 2009
    Stuart Ramsay, Chief correspondent in Pakistan
    The streets are packed with traders and shoppers.

    No mercy: Taliban enforcers hold a man down in the street and flog him
    Roads clogged with tuk tuk taxis, cars and lorries, but the word "Taliban" starts as a whisper then spreads through the crowds; black turbaned out-runners wield wooden sticks to clear a path and a convoy of four wheel drive cars and pick-up trucks pass though - the Taliban are back.
    They are in charge. This time it is Pakistan.
    London and Washington will surely watch on in horror.
    A foreign policy of beating the menace of the Taliban, the scourge of all western human rights thinking, democratic principles and protectors of Osama bin Laden, has been dashed in spectacular st
    More on the link
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Taliban-In-Pakistan-Stuart-Ramsay-Report-Shows-Taliban-Flogging-Men-In-Swat-Valley/Article/200903415246681?f=rss
     
  2. Tytus_Barnowl

    Tytus_Barnowl On ROPs

    Ah well, in the same vein that Blair set the world example by handing South Armagh back to the IRA I suppose this was bound to happen one day. Not much we can do about it except destroy them.
     
  3. I recall that before we invaded iraq, pres. karsai offered concern that we wouldn't be able to deal with afghanistan properly if our efforts were diverted to iraq. Whats the odds that broon will realise the size of the problem and take steps to improve our defence capabilities? my money is on him putting his head in the sand, his fingers in his ears and humming really loud.
     
  4. Tytus_Barnowl

    Tytus_Barnowl On ROPs

    Mark White, home affairs correspondent
    Community leaders are warning that the on-going political turmoil in Pakistan could become a more effective rallying call to extremism than either the conflict in Iraq or Afghanistan.

    Supporters of Hizb ut Tahrir Britain march in London

    Supporters of Hizb ut Tahrir Britain on London march in January

    They fear radical groups could use Pakistan as a means of recruiting disaffected youth because of the close family ties many British Muslims retain with Pakistan.

    Haras Rafiq from the Sufi Muslim Council told Sky News that recruiters have played on the idea of a global Muslim brotherhood when using Iraq and Afghanistan to win over impressionable minds.

    But he said the difference with Pakistan is that many feel a loyalty to the country that goes beyond religion.

    "The lack of understanding among some young people about what is happening in Pakistan but the emotional links that are still there from a family and ethnicity perspective is a key enabler for actually radicalising youngsters that way...

    "There's likely to be more pay-back for extremist organisations in terms of their propaganda investment because of these emotional links."

    The number of people going to training in Pakistan and Afghanistan may be few in numbers but radicalisation of the mind where you have distrust about government, about policies and the way things work is more dangerous.

    Amjad Malik, Rochdale solicitor and officer of Pakistan's High Court

    It is a view many who work in youth organisations for the Muslim community seem to agree with.

    Mohammed Shafiq from the Ramadhan Foundation said: "It's real. We have family there. My in-laws are living in Pakistan, so there's that sense of connection, not just in terms of the wider religious significance, but in that cultural ethnic origin.

    "I think that's what makes the threat more real and why watching the events in Pakistan over the past few months has been very worrying for the British Pakistani Community."

    Controversial political groups, such as Hizb ut Tahrir, are now also focusing their campaign efforts on the situation in Pakistan, calling for the establishment of an Islamic state in Pakistan, governed by Sharia Law.

    This development has left some fearing more radical groups could use the turmoil in Pakistan to target people, because of the unique significance the country has for many British Muslims.

    Amjad Malik, a solicitor in Rochdale and an officer of the High Court in Pakistan, says although those with a radical agenda are a minority, their potential influence should not be underestimated.

    "The number of people going to training in Pakistan and Afghanistan may be few in numbers but radicalisation of the mind where you have distrust about government, about policies and the way things work is more dangerous."

    Last week's reinstatement of Pakistan's judiciary has been seen by many as a significant step towards stability.

    Yet the growing strength of the Taliban in the country's north west frontier makes it clear Pakistan's future continues to hang in the balance and that will only heighten concerns that a volatile situation there, may lead to a volatile situation on the streets of Britain.

    If there is anyone out there who thinks that these lifewasting f uckers are going to impact the way we live our lives then watch this space.
     
  5. Hizb ut Tahrir have been around for years, seen their protests before, just a few extremists, should still be slung out though. Shame the Govt doesn't use exile as a punishment like others do.
     
  6. The dispatches programme last week about the growing Taliban influence in Pakistan was an eye opener.
    The production line of the madrassas are grooming thousands of the little buggers. Most will end up over the border in 'Ghan, but inevitably some will head back to mainland Europe. Frightening.
     
  7. I would also suggest that the labour move to turn the uk into a totalitarian state plays right into the extremists hands. If your not going to be free in the uk, you have less to lose in going for sharia, which does at least give you property rights over women and therefore a sense of power.

    edited for speeling.
     
  8. Tytus_Barnowl

    Tytus_Barnowl On ROPs

    Spouse management is an art form, I do not need a law to enforce it.
    :lol:
     
  9. http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Pakistan-Explosion-Blast-In-Capital-Islamabad-According-To-Reports/Article/200903415247468?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15247468_Pakistan_Explosion%3A_Blast_In_Capital_Islamabad_According_To_Reports

    I have watched over the last few months many events which have happened in Pakistan paint what can only be a bleak future for stablity and security. Can it be naively concluded that some activities in Afghanistan have been successful (and the Taliban have moved to Pakistan) or does Pakistan have to many internal problems which is now spilling out into the wider world.
     
  10. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    I blame Ghandi. Too nice for his (and now our) own good.
     
  11. Flight

    Flight LE Book Reviewer

    If the world was a powderkeg, Pakistan is where the fuze would be.

    I was astonished to hear the casualties they've taken against the Taliban, not to mention watching videos of Pakistani armour retreating from an ambush. Entire regions being turned over to Sharia law demanded by the Taliban, the Yanks continuing to hit targets with UAVs (apparently without Pakistani permission) etc.

    Then think about the tiny Pakistani ethnic population of the UK. I think half of it lives over the hill from me. :)
     
  12. I reckon so. Reports of a bombing coming through in Islamabad and I read somewhere that the Yanks don't just refer to Afghanistan anymore but AfPak. They've obviously started holding them in the same high regard for trouble.
     
  13. I'm surprised the army hasn't taken over again.
     
  14. We have already had a taster of some home grown elements here in London a few years ago, could it happen again. do we have the resouces to stop it. Will the spams close the door to us, until we got our house in order?