Army foiled me.

#1
Good afternoon lads and ladies, I attempted to join the army last year and was severely disapointed to receive a letter telling me that i could'nt join because of a depression and self harm episode i had went through two years before, I Understand the reasons why this has gone through, but i want to join, It's something of a family tradition to be a soldier, and i cant really see myself in any other job to be completely honest, i Want to know, is there anything i can do, such as have a army medical officer check me over etc?, or does anyone know wether i could attempt to appeal again (My parents had wrote the first appeal, saying something along the lines of (He felt depressed as the family buisness went down the tube and we had lost alot of money etc etc).

If anyone at all could hit me back with at least a possible way of finding a loop hole around the system, I'd be very very Greatful, you can have my wages for the next 5 years. Lol
 
#4
chingy said:
hmm.. I'd try getting a full psych report done by a specialist on the nhs or ask your solicitor what you can do
I actually think this might be a good idea, How can i go about this, Would i have to see one of my Doctors Surgerys, or Would i have to goto the hospital, i apologise if i sound stupid, I'm 17 so i'm not actually quite sure on alot of these things.
 
#5
Keen to know if the depression/self harm is well behind you - you'll understand why the Army is not to keen on these things ......... Certainly not going to help you out with 'loopholes' if you are still prone to them.

Just a thought, BTW - your post is timed 11:18 UK time, yet you wish us 'good afternoon'? Are you genuine?
 
#6
amazing__lobster said:
Have you considered tryingfor the TA?
And no, the Armed forces is something i've wanted to do since i was very little, I appreciate that the TA is Relatively the same, but i think a full life in the army is what i really want, or do the TA offer camps which you stay at, sever training, and nasty corporals? Lol.
 
#7
Bambi said:
Keen to know if the depression/self harm is well behind you - you'll understand why the Army is not to keen on these things ......... Certainly not going to help you out with 'loopholes' if you are still prone to them.

Just a thought, BTW - your post is timed 11:18 UK time, yet you wish us 'good afternoon'? Are you genuine?

yes the Depression and Self harm, Are very well behind me, and i emphasise on this, I Was stupid, I Was 14 with a very bad temper, i dont actually believe i was depressed, it was just a way of getting the attention, also i believe something was said about drug misuse, At the time i was going through the usual changes which made us all into spotty little teenagers and the transistion from Juniour school to High School, I Believe my parents had actually said they believed me to be on some sort of drug, allthough i wasnt, and still wouldnt as i was a very keen person in my Science class and saw what that shit does to you..
 
#9
DeathKnight said:
amazing__lobster said:
Have you considered tryingfor the TA?
And no, the Armed forces is something i've wanted to do since i was very little, I appreciate that the TA is Relatively the same, but i think a full life in the army is what i really want, or do the TA offer camps which you stay at, sever training, and nasty corporals? Lol.
I don't know, mate. I've never been in the TA. But, when I was going to join, they passed me as fit at the medical, whereas I was medically downgraded for eyesight when I was in the Army.And another guy at the medical passed the medical, despite the fact he was claiming a War Pension... Although I didn't join in the end because of how disorganised the unit I was going for seemed.

But, if you're interested, ask about FTRS (Full-Time Reserve Service) in the TA forums. If you really want the Army that much, then surely part-time is better than just wishing for the rest of your life...
 
#10
amazing__lobster said:
DeathKnight said:
amazing__lobster said:
Have you considered tryingfor the TA?
And no, the Armed forces is something i've wanted to do since i was very little, I appreciate that the TA is Relatively the same, but i think a full life in the army is what i really want, or do the TA offer camps which you stay at, sever training, and nasty corporals? Lol.
I don't know, mate. I've never been in the TA. But, when I was going to join, they passed me as fit at the medical, whereas I was medically downgraded for eyesight when I was in the Army.And another guy at the medical passed the medical, despite the fact he was claiming a War Pension... Although I didn't join in the end because of how disorganised the unit I was going for seemed.

But, if you're interested, ask about FTRS (Full-Time Reserve Service) in the TA forums. If you really want the Army that much, then surely part-time is better than just wishing for the rest of your life...

Yes i can see where your coming from and if the push really does come to a shove, then i suppose i would but i would really like to know if my attempts to join the army are not in vain, and that some how there really is a loop hole around the system, or i can have this depression and self harming thing removed from my records so i can get a standing chance to fight it
 
#11
DeathKnight said:
amazing__lobster said:
Have you considered tryingfor the TA?
And no, the Armed forces is something i've wanted to do since i was very little, I appreciate that the TA is Relatively the same, but i think a full life in the army is what i really want, or do the TA offer camps which you stay at, sever training, and nasty corporals? Lol.
I you really are keen the TA could be a good answer, first you will be trained and get some idea of what the full time is like, and you will build up a service record which can be used in a few years to show that you are over your depression. There are probably no real short cuts rather some good solid hard work to get over these things.

Good luck
 
#12
Well Im Currently in a Plumbing Apprenticeship and it seems to be going all well at this moment in time, so basically the army was what i was looking at as soon as i had completed all my plumbing exams etc.
 
#13
DeathKnight said:
Well Im Currently in a Plumbing Apprenticeship and it seems to be going all well at this moment in time, so basically the army was what i was looking at as soon as i had completed all my plumbing exams etc.
You a qualified plumber, and now thinking about joining the Army?!?! Rake it in as a plumber and do the TA thing, instead!
 
#14
Lol like i said, Army was what i wanted to do, Stupid i know, but its really something i've dreamed, Plumbing is the same thing day in and out, The army is an adventure, and a test of endurance, and perserverance.. Thats what i like, i like a challenge.
 
#16
DeathKnight said:
Lol like i said, Army was what i wanted to do, Stupid i know, but its really something i've dreamed, Plumbing is the same thing day in and out, The army is an adventure, and a test of endurance, and perserverance.. Thats what i like, i like a challenge.
Plenty of adventures to be had from the TA - and at the time of your choosing (more or less) and on your civilian salary.

msr
 
#17
do the ta thing thing then once you finish the apprenticeship you can sign up full time on or do a tour best of both worlds
 
#18
I have to give it to you all, Your bloody awesoume, I Have a standard test on wednesday with my gp, if all goes well he'll write to the army telling them that im fully healthy :D

Oh, ps. Apparently it was what i wrote in my application, but the doctors actually have no notes what so ever about self harm..

I'm Extatic at the moment, and i'd like to thank everyone for the help
 
#19
Appeal that decision
I went through the same situation.Apparently I had "behavioural problems and self harm incidents". In reality this was bashing people who hassled me(for which the great minds that ran my school decided to send me to a psychiatrist) and burning cigarettes on my arm while pissed.
Basically get good references from teachers and/or employers and a doctor to say no depression etc(unless you actually were depressed) and an explanation for the self harm(which they will probably take at face value).I did this and have been accepted into the army to start training (although the friggin appeal took 5 months)
 
#20
What make people think the TA will take him if the regs don't? Self harming is a serious issue.

I can't see how the TA would be a less dangerous/stressful environment than the regs when it comes to handling dangerous weapons/equipment?
 
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