Army could be needed in UK prisons

#62
Couple of weeks ago, a colleague was seriously injured. Severe lacerations around the head & neck by an improvised knife wielding con.
Most serious assault on staff I've ever seen & l've seen a few.
He was defending another con who had already been stabbed.
Suffice to say, the perp said he was unhappy at the way the prison system treats Muslims.
If the system bent over backwards any further, we'd be able to lick our own ar*es.
Needless to say Abu Hamza is a walking talking advertisement for the softer UK prisons.

His treatment in the UK compared to that in the US has provoked yet more funds being expended on his behalf... to allow him to come back to prison here.
SHAMELESS: Hook-handed hate preacher Abu Hamza wants RETURN to Britain for 'softer' jail
 
#63
Needless to say Abu Hamza is a walking talking advertisement for the softer UK prisons.

His treatment in the UK compared to that in the US has provoked yet more funds being expended on his behalf... to allow him to come back to prison here.
SHAMELESS: Hook-handed hate preacher Abu Hamza wants RETURN to Britain for 'softer' jail
I'd love to be his solicitor.
I dont want him back but would love the opportunity to say to him:

'Don't worry Abu, I'll do whatever it takes to get you back into the UK, I'll get you back by hook or crook' ;)
 
#64
Any kind of civil policing is best done by properly trained and equipped bods with full knowledge of all the rules and regs and with adequate numbers.
HM forces are trained to do ABH on HM enemies, not as gap fillers for a service that's falling apart. All that would happen is shift the problem from HM prisons to HM forces with no addressing of the issues that caused the army to be called in.
 

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#65
Needless to say Abu Hamza is a walking talking advertisement for the softer UK prisons.

His treatment in the UK compared to that in the US has provoked yet more funds being expended on his behalf... to allow him to come back to prison here.
SHAMELESS: Hook-handed hate preacher Abu Hamza wants RETURN to Britain for 'softer' jail
"Last month his daughter-in-law, who cannot be named, won victory when the European Court of Justice ruled she could not be deported from the UK as her son has EU citizenship."
Only until 2019, sweetheart, then you can both fuck off!
 
#71
Why is the stock response to shortfalls in ability or capacity in pretty much any field 'send in the army'?

How about just ensuring the responsible agency has enough adequately-trained staff in the first place?
Read the memo, and get with the winning team.

It is not about numbers, it is how you deploy them.

Apparently.
 
#72
The prison service has been neglected by the Government for many years. It has been an easy option for budget cuts with public spending. It is after all the "hidden" service.

For the past 30 years or so political correctness and human rights have ruined the prison system.

The Government have relied on goodwill by both staff and prisoners for far too long and and ignored all warnings from the POA and prison other prison workers, including the prison reform trust.

The prison service has always been the white elephant in the room for Government, past and present.
 
#74
Any kind of civil policing is best done by properly trained and equipped bods with full knowledge of all the rules and regs and with adequate numbers.
HM forces are trained to do ABH on HM enemies, not as gap fillers for a service that's falling apart. All that would happen is shift the problem from HM prisons to HM forces with no addressing of the issues that caused the army to be called in.
ABH? Snowflake!
 
#75
Relying on the goodwill of prisoners? People get put inside mainly because they lack ‘goodwill’.
It's called 'CONDITIONING', something that the Training College warned Trainee Officers about.

Once they arrive at thier establishment, the do gooder's and lefty liberals throw away the training manual and spout on about 'Goodwill'.

It's all b0ll0cks, HAPPINESS IS DOOR SHAPED WITH A VILLAIN LOCKED BEHIND IT.
 
#78
It will have to be with his plastic spoon now... he’s in prison in the US.

No hooks, special custom built cell with special mod cons, along with all the benefits he and his family have been claiming for years.

That’s reserved for our softly softly prison system.

The purposes of prison are... retribution, incapacitation, deterrence and rehabilitation.
These have to a degree in our prison system become unbalanced, with what should be the tail, now wagging the dog.
 
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#79
Why is the stock response to shortfalls in ability or capacity in pretty much any field 'send in the army'?

How about just ensuring the responsible agency has enough adequately-trained staff in the first place?
In Britain?. Have you taken leave of your senses?.

No self respecting British government department could possibly ever display initiave of that nature. It would show everyone else up.