Army Commando?

#1
Wasn't sure where to put this so Infantry will do.
Mate of mine stopped at services on M4 today saw what he thought were Royal Marines but they had Army Commando on the shoulder tab. Had a chat with a couple of them who told him they were in fact Army Commando's and were a separate organisation from Royal.
How long have these been around? My mate thought they may have just passed as some of them were walking as if they had just done a 30 miler.
 
#2
civvygit said:
Wasn't sure where to put this so Infantry will do.
Mate of mine stopped at services on M4 today saw what he thought were Royal Marines but they had Army Commando on the shoulder tab. Had a chat with a couple of them who told him they were in fact Army Commando's and were a separate organisation from Royal.
How long have these been around? My mate thought they may have just passed as some of them were walking as if they had just done a 30 miler.
Hmmmm. Marines, eh? They are part of the Navy you know.
 
#3
civvygit said:
Wasn't sure where to put this so Infantry will do.
Mate of mine stopped at services on M4 today saw what he thought were Royal Marines but they had Army Commando on the shoulder tab. Had a chat with a couple of them who told him they were in fact Army Commando's and were a separate organisation from Royal.
How long have these been around? My mate thought they may have just passed as some of them were walking as if they had just done a 30 miler.
These guys perhaps

http://www.army.mod.uk/royalengineers/org/59sqn/index.htm
 
#4
What badges, capbadges etc were they wearing?

Obviously RLC, Artillery, Engineer, Scaleyback AGC, RMP etc attatched to 3 Cdo brigade have to pass AACC and so get the dagger and green beret to wear with their existing corps cap-badge and so can be termed "Army Commandos".

There's also talk of one of the Rifle regiments acting in support of the brigade. No one seems to be sure yet whether AACC will be a requirement but it will certainly be open to members of the relevant regiment.
 
#5
No he said they weren't 59. Worked with them before.
 
#6
wessex_warrior said:
What badges, capbadges etc were they wearing?

Obviously RLC, Artillery, Engineer, Scaleyback AGC, RMP etc attatched to 3 Cdo brigade have to pass AACC and so get the dagger and green beret to wear with their existing corps cap-badge and so can be termed "Army Commandos".

There's also talk of one of the Rifle regiments acting in support of the brigade. No one seems to be sure yet whether AACC will be a requirement but it will certainly be open to members of the relevant regiment.
They had the normal green berets but didn't see their cap badges as they were rolled up in their pockets. They had green stable belts with a dagger in the centre.
 
#9
The-Daddy said:
Surely army AACC qualified only wear the dagger and not a soulder title "Army Commando" like the RM?
I dunno, keep your eyes peeled and you might even see the lesser spotted 'Royal Navy Commando' shoulder title. Seen it myself in Bosnia on some sneaky beaky chappie.
 
#10
didnt the marines originally have a light infantry support unit in the form of RMLI albeit a bit disimilar from the current proposal as they where also marines not army.

strikes me as the government are now realising that it was a good idea to start with and should of scrapped it maybe wrong happy to hear news on this
 
#11
stroker said:
The-Daddy said:
Surely army AACC qualified only wear the dagger and not a soulder title "Army Commando" like the RM?
I dunno, keep your eyes peeled and you might even see the lesser spotted 'Royal Navy Commando' shoulder title. Seen it myself in Bosnia on some sneaky beaky chappie.
Usually Medics, RM's used Navy Medical Assistants who go through the Commando Course. Saw quite a few of them around DMSTC this year.
 
#12
The RMLI was a version of the RM at one time - just as they are Cdo now.

As for RN Commando - this goes back to WW2 and ratings/officers are still entitlede to wear the shoulder flash if they have passed the AACC and are serving with 3 CDO Bde or other RM units.
 
#13
Royal Navy Commando shoulder flashes are quite common within the Commando Helicopter Force, less so within the medical world and obviously some sneakies. Wasn't aware there was an Army Commando shoulder flash though, seems a bit random!
 
#14
#16
Royal Marines Light Infantry and Royal Marines Artillery were 2 flavours of the Corps before WW2; they were both absorbed into the RM.

My Grandad was in 116 Inf Bde (RM) during WW2 - but he was not a Commando. Look at the ORBAT for D-Day and you'll find quite a number of RM units that were not Cdo, some of them in quite surprising roles. For example, I met an old chap at Remembrance Day last year, who wore the RM badge on a red patch, and had driven a tank ashore on 6-6-44, as part of a RM 'Special Services' unit formed specially for the landings.

When Churchill called for Commandos in 1940, most of them were recruited from the Army, they all wore green berets and the dagger badge, and were called 'Army Commandos'. The RM formed some all-volunteer commando units a bit later.

Some years ago the Army museum in Chelsea did a special exhibit on Army Commandos, to redress the fact that they had been "forgotten".

After the war, the specialist commando role - quite logically - went to the RM, and became their central purpose.

I am a bit surprised about the revival of the 'Army Commandos' as a title on a shoulder flash, especially since I haven't found any posts from G1 Ninjas to explain it. Is it possible you've been Walted? 8)
 
#18
RArmy Commando flashes went out after the war, the RM and RN kept the tradition going as it is (apart from the beret) the symbol of a commando. In the Army, where you can be posted in to a commando unit, do the AACC and then get posted out again, the Detol Dagger badge is the symbol, no Army Commando Flashes/tabs.

Grenn stable belt with a dagger on ???

A plain green stable belt indicates LI/RGJ, so Rifles is a possiblilty, however its the 1 Rifles (who are still D&D and RGBW) that are ear marked for that

Sorry but this sounds really suss, what uniform wherethy wearing ? Cbt 95 or WWII Battle Dress ? Got a weird felling this is re-enactment waltiness


Then again stranger things have happened, I remember my dad telling me that he saw a guy with a Red Beret and an RA badge, "Balsl" I said "Should of been an RHA badge" little knowing about that TA Cdo Bty that turned into a Para Troop (289 ???)
 
#19
A colleague of mine and I thought it would be cool to have "Royal Artillery Commando" shoulder patches a la RM Commando ones. when horribly drunk we suggested these would be a good idea to the RSM...he became distant, aloof and almost chilly. It turned out in the light of sobriety that he had recently very unsuccessfully suggested the same idea to the CO and thought we were having a subalterns' giggle ay his expense.
 
#20
Just returned from Afghanistan after handing over to 3 Cdo Bde and can confirm thet 29 Cdo Regt RA are wearing subdued shoulter titles saying "ARMY COMMANDO" .
 

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